Should Free to Play be Illegal?

Game News: Should Free to Play be Illegal?

Why not make everything illegal Hell, now YouTube descriptions are illegal. Wait, shit.

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  • SirTEPL FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Ben Cousins? You mean the Drug guy from Aussie Rules football? Don't listen to him guys!


    (I know its not him, but would be funny)

  • RickRock87 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I'm internetting

    1 year ago

  • DocDalek FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold /SMG/ Mod Audi

    1 year ago

    Evony was pretty fun for a while. till my brother crushed my kingdom.

    • SirTEPL FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Give him payback. Crush every bone of his for every villager he killed >:O

  • tanukivilla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    RT, I really don't care what your opinion is on this issue. I'm sure whatever conclusion you come to in this video will immediately change should Bungie, Microsoft, or 343 make a game that implements this business strategy the same way you guys immediately changed your opinions about microtransactions once Destiny implemented them. That's the problem with running a gaming news service while also having huge fiduciary ties to game developers/publishers, you wind up coming off as incredibly fickle and biased. Then again, maybe that's why Funhaus was brought into RT, because Machinima never had a problem with shilling for Microsoft.

  • forgottenlor FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Free-to-play shouldn't be illegal, but free-to-play shouldn't be allowed to exploit thousands from those who might not be able to afford it. When people go beyond their rational ability to put more money into something, then it's exploiting addiction and the closest parallel is not the lottery but the slot machine - you pay, you spin, you win or lose, you put more money in. That's undisputed gambling! And while this might be a more complex interaction scheme, the same logic of gambling should apply here. The logical boundary should be "how hard is it for me to lose my house". If I can, through repetitive investment, lose the entirety of my rent payment before the end of the month, it should be considered exploiting a gambling addiction and be regulated accordingly. And BTW - regulated doesn't mean outlawed - casinos are legal.

  • Vhoxz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Like Joel said, free to play games are " FREE TO PLAY" you don't have to pay shit to play them.
    I also feel there is a difference between free to play games like candy crush and games like smite, swtor, league of legends.
    While games on social media might actually be pay2win most other games only offer visuals.
    They do this because it would be unfair for a non-paying customer in a competitive environment.

  • Haeyl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So what happens to international f2p games that operate in but do not live at America. For (a rather bad*) example, I play Tera here in Europe, a free to play MMO created by Korean studio Blue Hole Studios. Will this game be regulated by the Americans even though it's made by a company half a world a way and operates across the globe.


    *I say it's a really bad example because Tera, being a server-necessary MMO, has different launchers and publishers across the world, so the US Gov. could just regulate the US version of the game. However, the scenario of a foreign made, internationally available game is still one that occurs often.


  • death390 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    there are a couple types of free to play games i have seen, and i think that should be addressed.


    game is free, in game currency (or just cash) to buy premium items. such as warframe, league of legends, ect. this kind of game is free, but to buy stuff that you can naturally unlock ahead of time or special things like cosmetics (skins) that are not needed but fun. This kind of F2P is not a major issue.


    game is free, micro transactions to win. candy crush, and its ilk. this is the kind of game that actively tries to drain money from the player and boy are there a lot of these. these kinds of games are the ones that are morally questionable and seem to be the target of this video.


    game is temporarily free, micro transactions to play. a lot of facebook games like ninja warz, trading card games, ect. these kinds of games have a limited number of times you can play unless you buy the energy or w/e it uses to limit the gameplay. these are technically free to play but like the previous it actively tries to get you to spend money in order to play.



  • GaminginAUS FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Always up for shite with

    1 year ago

    'Game of War' proof that nudity (b00bs) do not sell games or convince people to spend money.

  • 1000MCHIEF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Follow @AH_Michael_dick

    1 year ago

    The only problem I have with free games like "Candy Crush" are SOME of the people you meet that play it.


    Me: Oh you're a hardcore gamer, what system do you play on or are playing on PC?


    Person: What?


    Me: Xbox One, PS4, computer?(in case the person didn't hear me)


    Person: Oh, non, I play (in this case) Candy Crush for some 30 minutes a week.


    Me: ah...(in my head) can I please start hitting my head into the wall?


    ____You are a casual gamer at most, I'm sorry but you are. Let me know when you clock in a few thousand hours of in game time on a system or PC in two years.____ Now time for me to get chewed out by people, this is going to be fun.

    • InkHero FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      "Now time for me to get chewed out by people, this is going to be fun."

      You stated a plausible conversation that most people can relate to. You weren't offensive in the slightest, so I wouldn't worry about flamebait. Personally, I can't say that engagement would really bug me though. Since those who are considered casual vastly outweigh those who enjoy gaming as a primary hobby, I'd just shrug it off and end the conversation. I'm sure everyone has had a similar convo regarding one thing or another. Ex: I skateboarded for 14 years and I'd often have quick chats with people who would say they did too, but later found out they just cruised on a longboard.

    • 1000MCHIEF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Follow @AH_Michael_dick

      1 year ago

      I see where you are coming from, and I'm with ya, so I'm not going to argue. I'm glad to see someone supporting here. ____ On a side note, sometimes I do find some people's reaction to my comments and thus trying to offend me because I shared an opinion to be hilarious hens the "this is going to be fun." I was just debating to add (slightly evil grin) _____ Not trying to sound like an ass lol =)

  • Wolfwood_RoT FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I play them to see how long I can go without paying. If I get to a point that I decide that I 'Need' to pay them to do something, I quit.
    It's odd I think, seeing as I'll happily pay hundreds of dollars for DLC in games, mostly cosmetic, only to not want to give a cent to these F2P people. But I'm a long time gamer and probably have different standards and awareness to these things, where as I can see these mobile games catching a lot of gaming newbies unprepared, like a banner add getting your mothers credit card because it was flashing that she won money.


    • 1000MCHIEF FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Follow @AH_Michael_dick

      1 year ago

      (high five)


      I'm will to pay for DLC for a "actual game" such as Battlefield, Halo, Forza because it is additional content not content I'm forced to miss in the first place or was forced to buy so I can move along in general.

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I'm not American so I have a much lower natural aversion to regulation than you guys, but I absolutely think that games like Candy Crush are no different to slot machines. They target the same reward mechanisms in the brain and even worse, it's harder to immediately recognise them as a form of gambling. I really think they should be treated to the same regulations as other forms of gambling if the random component is too prominent. And all the other stuff they pull like adjusting the difficulty and profiling you is just plain unethical.

  • valathor95 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Creepy Barbara!

  • Jayylexx

    1 year ago

    I wan free cocaine too Joel

  • McTrusty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    It is similar to a puggy I guess

  • GeeeReg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Now with 20% less fat!

    1 year ago

    Love these discussions from Funhaus. I think that it is predatory in the sense that all advertising is. It has to be, that's how it's designed to work, regardless of ill-intentions. It is technically free, it is technically a choice to spend money on it. The companies that produce these games, however, operate in such a manner that if you did spend money, the game would be better. You would have a better experience of the thing you already enjoy, and all you have to do is spend $2.99 - why not, right?


    At the end of the day, all consumers need to be wary of what they are paying for. Anything you care about, if you paid for it, is a product - maybe designed by someone with the warmest altruistic intentions, and created lovingly, but nonetheless sold to make a profit. That's not evil, it's how businesses must operate, so be aware of this and you won't get screwed as much. On the other hand, business behind these games are deliberately being manipulative. As I've said, this is just how advertising works, it seems (I have no industry knowledge of experience myself), and how things make money, but they should make it more clear to the players that they are taking these significant steps to learn everything about you in order to market to you on an individual basis.


    I might not want to play (totally made up name) Commando Adventures 2. If, however, Commando Adventures 2 is using methods to market specifically to me in terms of my views, time of day in which I play, budget, and so on, then I'd probably be inclined to try it out, because (whether I know it or not) it just seems to magically fit into the one time of my day I want to sit down and play an FTP mobile game.


    Great episode though, guys. FTP would be an awesome topic for Dude Soup.

  • IsaiahS

    1 year ago

    A wild Punkleman appears.
    Joel used Trample
    It's Super Effective!

    • GeeeReg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Now with 20% less fat!

      1 year ago

      Barbara used Tortured Pun

      "Maybe I should drink a Jew-per potion to heal up!"

      It's Super Effective!

      Joel fainted [in disgust]!

  • CircuitsMan

    1 year ago

    Did anyone else briefly forget this videos message when Barbara showed up?

  • MrMaxio

    1 year ago

    Goddammit Barb!

    Also I personally avoid F2P games, as I would probably have a bad time avoiding spending money. If someone doesn't want to spend their money they don't have to! The one shady thing is the fake Facebook accounts, altering how it works to make you want to pay for it, etc. How I avoid it? I don't play F2P games, and if I ever play a game with micro-transactions I don't spend my money (with the exception of GTA V, or games that I really enjoy).

  • Wulfurion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wulf#1988 on Bnet B)

    1 year ago

    I do agree with free to play games can have a very negative effect on those with addictive personalities and in someways take advantage of them. In that case - I do feel regulation could be worked out to be a good thing. (Key word COULD). It often feels these F2P games can be aggressively pressuring the consumer to make purchases.

  • Cole5 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sir Cole!

    1 year ago

    who modded this as flamebait?


    People are stupid, thats the core of Advertisement. FTP games are extremly addictive if done right. Put those 2 together and it's a recipe for disater

  • Nulon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I absolutely agree with regulating this. Game addiction via gameplay manipulation has been a core business model since the dawn of MMOs and this is merely the next iteration of it. The ending quote of this video seems to want to ignore how well documented and deadly video game addiction has proven itself. To deny a game addict their precious progress in the game until they've shelled out money essentially puts a price on the entire product. Otherwise, it's unusable.


    A game that touts itself as free in any respect should be able to be completed or fully enjoyed without spending money for progression. I'll give FTP that speeding up progression is fair play, but the fact remains that the progression should still be of reasonable length and difficulty when played entirely free. Otherwise, just grow the balls other developers have and ask for a couple of bucks.


    Other micro-transactions don't really bother me as much. Pay to win style multiplayer games just end up alienating their entire audience Payday 2 style. I don't believe game addiction factors much into buying competitive bonuses. That's more of a general dickhead thing.


    In summary, don't call a game free to play if you need to spend money to properly play it.

  • Outis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Non Mea Culpa

    1 year ago

    Free cocaine for everyone!