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The New War on Pewdiepie Could Ruin Let's Plays?

Game News: The New War on Pewdiepie Could Ruin Let's Plays?

Over the weekend a video of Pewdiepie dropping the n-bomb casually while playing Battlegrounds, leading Firewatch developer Campo Santo to ban him from doing videos in their games, even DMCAing a previous video. That's riled up the conversation around let's plays, streams, and fair use... and not necessarily in gamers' favor.

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  • iTaleTeller FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    5 days ago

    Pewdiepie should Absolutely face the consequences for his actions, and if Campo Santo doesn't want him to use his material anymore, he shouldn't be allowed to.


    The way I see it, the big problem is not Campo Santo not wanting Pewdiepie not to use their game to make money, but that they took down an old video.


    Let me explain: if they had come out and said "Pewdiepie is now banned from using our content for moneytized videos or streams ever again" then well, that is their right. Nintendo did the same thing a while ago, and while it sucks, it's well within their rights to do so. Instead, what they did was remove a video that existed long before this controversy happened.


    This could pave the way for companies in the future deciding any video that talks negatively about their product, be it a game, movie or service, has to be taken down, and having the legal right to do so. Which is a terrible idea.

  • Blue6erry FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    I'll agree that dropping the "N" bomb is bad, but you have to give some slack. I mean, If he is racist for saying that word or antisemitic for making Nazi/Jew jokes. Some people have harsh senses of humor. If we were to apply this logic elsewhere, the results can be interesting. Burnie is racist (he said the "N" word too), Ray from AH is homophobic from multiple different occasions, and Geoff/Gavin are sexual predators (Connect the hots). This does not mention the multiple anti-trans and ableism stuff many of the staff have said throughout the years. Different people have different types of humor and we can't all get offended when people talk. 

  • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    People "slip up" and say the n word in public when they're used to saying it in private all they want. Not when it isn't part of their usual vocabulary. I've slipped up and said fuck out of habit in a situation I shouldn't. I've never slipped up and called someone a f*g. Why? Because I don't fucking use that word.

  • knarkill182 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    I've had plenty of heated game moments and never once has that word left my mouth or entered my head

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    so... basically, this makes for a perfectly juicy news story because EVERYONE's wrong.

    3 things.


    1) This still isn't the purpose of "copyright" infrindgment. Questonable material added by streamers doesn't somehow make their video game footage "infringe" on an IP more.


    2) Unlike the sign thing, PDP wasn't making a spectacle or point out of the controversial thing this time, it was purely a reaction. Saying he was bound to "slip up" sooner or later clearly indicates that he's fine spewing that garbage offline.


    3) I bet the Fire Watch guy thinks he's a reeeeal hero publicly denouncing the most watched, nitpicked, polerizing streamer around by resending his video capabilities... MONTHS after it was already out and advertized the game to millions of viewers when PDP aparently had nothing but praise for it. This guys motivations are questionable at best, and his actions really only served to point out how overwhelming overreaching devs'/publishers authority is over videos they didn't make themselves.


    There ought'a be some sort of statutes of limitations on how long afterwards a video can be taken down for this kind of crap. They were CLEARLY okay with all this at the time.

  • EricHVela FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold First World Palabras

    1 week ago

    The DMCA was never intended to be a means to punish people. Look how people felt about Alex Mauer. There must be a better response than abusing a service intended to protect people for the purpose of hurting someone. The tweets make it fairly plain that the intent is to punish.


    The word that PDP used is outside of my vocabulary, even when frustrated, angry, losing my mind: It's just not a word I use. I'll never understand how anyone continues to use that word. It's the 21st Century. Have we really gone nowhere since the 1800s?


    That said, there are a lot of words that AH uses that are also outside of my vocabulary. That's kind of their thing, and they have probably lost some viewership over it (not me, I'm still an AHer at heart, language or not), but they don't use a racial slur to call someone a jerk. Any celebrity should have this figured out by the time they get as big as PDP. PDP has shown that (like too many celebrities) he is not responsible enough for his fame. Actions do have consequences, even "free speech".


    Still, people can continue to watch PDP. (I haven't and never will. I tried twice and never made it far into either video.) People can stop watching PDP. People can complain about PDP. People can complain about people complaining about PDP. People can complain about people complaining about people complaining about PDP.


    Should someone encourage people to try to hurt someone with a service that was made to help people? Is this a double-standard against Alex Mauer?

    • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      The dev issued the license, they get to revoke it.

  • APLeith FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    Let's plays can be classified as fair use if the produced content can be considered a transformative work. PewDiePie's YouTube videos are especially relevant here as they are not a market substitute for the games. Namely, your experience from playing the game would be strikingly different from watching PewDiePie play the game.

    • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      Cite the relevant precedent you're referencing here, please.

  • S3anyBoy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    PUBG's Rules of Conduct specifically state:
    "1. Do not use any discriminatory language, including but not limited to any language regarding ethnicity, nationality, race, gender, religion, sexual preference or personal beliefs.

     2. Do not use extremely foul language, including but not limited to excessive profanity or language that is graphically sexual, grotesque, or violent."

    So honestly he should be banned from PUBG

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

     I don't believe he's racist. I don't think he's anti-semitic. But the fact that saying that word would ever cross his mind, or that he'd go through with hiring people to pretend to be Nazis, shows that he doesn't have enough of a conscience or just doesn't care whether he's contributing, however small, to a society of hate. If he or anyone in the public eye can throw around the term whenever he wants, that shows that anyone can do it without consequences. And that just isn't acceptable if we want our society to move past the 1960s.

    • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      This may come as a shock but doing antisemitic things makes you an antisemite.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      @Solutad Yes, I understand that. What I'm saying is that he did it because he's an insensitive cunt who thinks holocaust jokes are funny, but not because he actively hates Jewish people. 

  • AishaAdventures FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Yomiko Readman's twin

    1 week ago

    Thought about commenting, but I saw the other comments so I'll refrain... mostly.


    I've seen the vid; he wasn't sorry he said it, he was sorry he was caught saying it. This dude slides by with too much that's toxic. Whether anyone wants to believe it, words have weight and meaning and that word has heinous implications. It's not cool.


    He's not a kid, he fully knows what he did; just like what he did with that sign about Jewish folks (still miffed about that). If he's mad, he can drop f-bombs like everyone else, he can rage quit. Folks can stan him all they want, but one doesn't get to tell my or others how to react to someone's proven toxic b.s. 

  • Haydenpoop FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    i also like that they didn't play the entire video where he immediately regrets it and says sorry

    • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      PewDiePie? capable of feeling regret? Absurd. If you regret your mistakes you typically try not to repeat them.

  • Haydenpoop FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    people are taking this way out of proportion, you dont see these kinds of videos on idubbbz or general sam

  • machinetool1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    Lol who cares

    • Solutad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      You, apparently