Never Buy Another XBOX GAME!?

Game News: Never Buy Another XBOX GAME!?

Xbox has announced a huge new project that means Xbox owners never need to buy another first party Xbox game in order to play them.

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  • RiverRunning

    4 weeks ago

    Also, sorry Ashley and Gus, you sound like complete M$ and XBox fans bois (not screamy enough for fan gurls ;) :D

  • RiverRunning

    4 weeks ago

    This idea works great for people who are into the latest thing and have gotta have that shiny thing but for those willing to wait a month of two they can get games for ten or twenty quid, the value proposition is not nearly as good, then there's the internet issue, if you don't have it or it sucks and you / your parents don't want to have the means to upgrade it (including, for most people in that position, not living in a country with the infrastructure... the US, funnily enough, is very much one of those once you get outside the big cities and even then...), on top of that is the second hand sale issue - you can't so no money back that way either rather than the five ten quid you can get for a newer title. Finally the real kicker for a gamer with my interests is that I play a lot but I don't play more than one or two new games a year because I play most of the games I buy for more than five hundred hours... anyone playing RPGs, some RTSs or things like Minecraft is going to be spending huge amounts of time on very few games... their ROI (Return On Investment) is huge and this service is a complete waste for them - I'd argue that almost (excepting AH and that level of time spent gaming) anyone playing a serious amount of Minecraft is not going to want this game pass... but wait, what happens if you can only get Minecraft with this new system... now there is a nightmare for you (and don't think M$ won't do it, they did the same with their Office suite which is now Office 365, you pay 365 days a year regardless of whether you use it!)

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Saying people can "make their money back" after playing 2 new games is really misleading. You don't get to keep it, it goes away the moment you stop paying them. Using this system, if you decide you want to replay an "old" game, you gotta pay again. And the games' continued availablility is at the whim of the company. It becomes even more volotile once you introduce 3rd-party games, where the company would keep having to renew liscences... until they decide it not worth it anymore, and poof, it's gone.


    If you're the kind of gamer that enjoys whimsically hopping from game to game and rarely look back, then a subscription service like this is great for you. That's not my approach to gaming, so it's not for me. I don't mind systems like this existing for the sake of the people it would benifit right now, but every time something like this comes up, I get concerned about some sort of sinister end-goal of slowly making everyone okay with being dependent on a gaming service with no ownership options even available. The next major step towards that is to make games exclusively for a subscription service. THEN, I'll start having a problem with it.

    • OniZonda FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hokage

      1 month ago

      Not sure that they said "money back" but instead "money's worth" which implies that 2 full retail games is the same price as this service. That's also assuming that you eat the full price and never sell the game as used after the fact. Some people do that, others will play a game and sell it the moment they're done, which would throw off the value of this proposition. All that aside, the point of how you value it is to consider how many games you play per month/year and weigh it against the price of the service. If you want to play 120 games a year, $120 seems like the best deal ever. I doubt anyone would do it, but you could. The minimum amount of games you should play to make it worth it is 2. If you play 2 Microsoft exclusive games per year, then this pass will give you those plus a huge library of games you might not already have.


      Speaking of losing access, the pass is taking away 2 games at the end of this month (or next month, can't remember right now) so if anyone happens to enjoy those games, best to play them now or buy them outside of this service. The argument of "no ownership" is actually part of digital distribution as a whole, for as long as I've been paying attention to it. If you own something digitally and the servers go offline, you have no license so therefor, you can't play the game. Once in a while a DDoS will make that happen, but when it becomes a real shut down, there's nothing that can be done about it. Physical has fewer limitations, however there are some exceptions. Destiny is one series where you can't play the game without being online. If the servers shut down, it's gone. I believe The Division is the same way. Seems like it should be anyway. World of Warcraft or any MMO would fall in the same category. All you have to do is look at how they word it. Even I used it: Licenses. We don't own the games we have in our library. We have a license to play them. Digital or physical, it's not our property. We merely have the ability to access the game.


      My view on exclusivity is simple; If I don't want to play it, then I won't. I have a couple games I might want to play that are platform exclusive, however I'm not shelling out money that I either don't have or could spend elsewhere for hardware to play them. In the case of streaming exclusive, it makes no difference that I can't get it anywhere else. If I want to play it, I might grumble a bit as I set up the account that's necessary to play it but the fact that it would only available through a specific delivery method doesn't matter to me. If it's something I don't want to play, I'm not paying for the service to get it, or I am paying for it already but I won't play that game. Regardless, it's exclusivity is irrelevant. Plus, if it's the only game I want to play on the service, $10 for a month of access is better than $60 up front which is then worth less than $20 a month later (or if you can swindle someone, you might be able to get $50 by posting to craigslist or ebay). The price over a month should be understandable, even if you don't advocate streaming exclusivity. I get that you'd have a problem with it as a concept, but the argument has to be made that it's worth it either way. 


      I don't actually care for the Xbox Game Pass, I just wanted to bring a few points that I can see for why it's a good program. Your points have merit and I can understand where you're going with it. My stance would remain unchanged if they made it the dystopian gaming future you're referring to though. I'm also a windbag so I hope you don't mind the long post.

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