Return Of The Low Ping Bastards

Glitch Please: Return Of The Low Ping Bastards

Join Ashley, Ryan, Adam, and Alfredo as they speedrun the news (23:42), discuss net neutrality (1:02:25), and shine the spotlight on some indie games (1:23:24)! This episode is brought to you by Casper (http://bit.ly/2xCIg7n) and Evenprime (http://bit.ly/2BzDtCa, Promo code: Glitch)

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  • RiverRunning

    1 week ago

    I should mention that, courtesy of the stupidity of the UK government creating a telecoms monopoly of the old public sector telecoms provider, the UK essentially has the same thing over the entire country (i.e. worse even than the USA) excepting a few parts of a few cities where a cable company (now Virgin Broadband) managed to expand before they got handcuffed by BT and now doesn't expand at all (even in new build estates due to builders also having an oligopoly and refusing to build in any new tech. at all - leading to some of the most technologically retarded, unfit-for-use (e.g. heating systems not appropriate to the local climate) and unenvironmentally friendly homes in the world (yes, including Africa).

    • JSebastian FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 day ago

      ... There is so much legislation that stops BT from being a monopoly? We had net neutrality before we even had any laws implementing it because there is SOOO much internet competition here? If your home is lacking in tech like heating then upgrade your damn heating or if you rent move house? don't reward a company/landlord for shitty business practises. The only thing I'll warrant you is that if BT are forced by regulation to share their fibre network then they dont want to upgrade it further. But thats an issue caused by the gov accidentally screwing a competitive market. I'm not in a virgin area, I have ten providers to pick from and while I may be capped at 76mb down and 20mb up. I only pay like £30 a month (like $40) for it? Give it a year, look at the US internet then and then you'll never talk about the competitiveness of the UK internet market.

    • RiverRunning

      1 day ago

      Ha, yeah.


      For the first point - if you don't have Virgin then you have to rent a phone line whether you want a phone or not, bundling like that is monopoly practice not communications neutrality.


      For the second - As a home owner I am well aware that getting decent heating is my problem - but when there are few decent market solutions and most of them involve tearing down the building and starting again then I don't have much choice at all when I life in a block of flats - i.e. only own part of the building.


      For the third - The reason they are being forced to share their network in the first place is because they refused to give it up when the whole lot was privatised because they'd lose their monopoly over the fibre in the ground. So they both caused the situation and refuse to fix it without greater government intervention - something that people are just as leery of here as in the US.


      I don't know where you are but I'm telling you you have a insane amount of speed at your disposal compared to everyone I have talked to - I'd be very interested in knowing what your actual rates are though since almost all the BT stuff is shared line and therefore you never get anywhere near the limits they claim - in fact there are legal proceedings that are pending regarding the us of those numbers in advertising due to potential breeches of trading standards and the description of goods - BT actually has a backup legal fund to pay any potential fines for this so they clearly think they could lose any court action that happens over this.


      And finally, as for net neutrality, I am on one of the few bigger providers that actually adheres to net neutrality rather than paying it lip service and then restricting all sorts of traffic on their network (unless you pay more), never mind the big six silently using keyword lists provided by the UK government to censor the WWW service that you receive (there is a gag order on what the lists contain but there are numerous problems for LGBTA+ groups and those trying to educate their children at home on human reproduction and the like, never mind those trying to read Arabic news sites).


      Net neutrality isn't a big thing here because the UK government has been doing its best to keep it all hush hush that there is no such thing in practice in this country. If you think otherwise I've a lot of information to point you to, but don't expect to keep your file with the intelligence services clean if you start hunting it all down - they are well known to keep a close eye on it and have done a much better job than the NSA at maintaining the availability of those links into UK communications hubs.

    • RiverRunning

      1 day ago

      P.S. You're right in a way about the heating systems - I could just say "Fuck the environment and all the money I have" and buy one that heating half the building so that my own flat stays warm... but then again I have morals, ethics and a normal persons bank balance so maybe not.

  • batbomb FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Batty

    1 week ago

    Adam's been kicking ass with his miniature paintings btw. Check out his twitter.

  • Ell_Pacino FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    If the tent's rockin'...Don't bother knockin' ;)

  • IanBray FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    $400 billion not $4 billion...

  • woard FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    My PS4 downloads got much better when I closed any applications running, it's not ideal but might help.

    • RiverRunning

      1 week ago

      Ditto but that's a very lame solution...

  • dampenedhorizon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold dampenedhorizon

    1 week ago

    Before anyone yells at me, I know the real intention behind the comment.

    Hearing adam talk about internet speed and "50 down and 5 up" being top tier made me a little mad/annoyed. 

    For a bit of background I'm Australian.

    By far I don't have the worst internet in australia but for a few years I have been getting between 0.5-12 down and 0.01-1.5 up. The best plan on the market has been changed from the 100mbps plan to the “between 12Mbps and 100 Mbps” plan with 12mbps being the max for the lowest tier. This is on our new fibre internet network too.

    I would like to finish by saying I like my country but it kinda sucks, everything is more expensive (I think ashley has mentioned this from when she lived here), AAA games cost $99.95 which translates to more than $60 (don't know about the tax situation over there), I can't go anywhere without hearing offensive language atleast once, from my experience our school system sucks (I have been to multiple schools in QLD and SA ), same sex marriage hasn't been legalised (yet) my aunties have a daughter now but they can't get married because of otber peoples religion and it makes me angry and I had more but I got too frustrated and forgot.

    This message is longer than I originally planned but I had to get it off my chest thanks for taking the time to read this, if you have any 'polite' questions I can try to answer them.

    Sorry about any spelling, grammar or punctuation mistakes.

    • RiverRunning

      1 week ago

      Considered moving to New Zealand? (Though it won't fix everything it's at least closer than most other places...

    • dampenedhorizon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold dampenedhorizon

      6 days ago

      No I hadn't thought of that, it's not a terrible idea for most people but I find it difficult to make friends because I'm not very social. All the people I know are here and so until I become more social I have no plans on leaving SA let alone Australia. Thank you for the idea but I'll have to leave that for atleast a year

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    So after NN gets murdered and most people (including myself) have to deal with our one-and-only internet provider in our monopolized area, I'm curious to see all the work-around shenanigans that people will try to employ. VPN's, masking video data as other types of data, etc...


    Also, since the local monopolies, as I understand them, are largely related to the big ISP's exclusive rights to the existing ground work, I'm interested in how much this hated system will incentivize further development of wireless alternatives.

  • Dex122sg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    So I have no idea why any one would not wan't net neutrality and the fact that the current US government is run by a business mogul who would have business ideals over consumer ideals probably doesn't help. note: this would be true of any person from big business ( including the PM of my Country) not just Trump but because the US sets many standards (that Canada has the unfortunate/fortunate habit of adopting) I felt it was the prominent choice.    

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      It was mentioned that the ISPs were given money to build a national fiber network, but they didn’t do it. It was also mentioned that ISPs now have a monopoly in many areas based on the tacit or outright endorsement of federal/state/local governments despite it being illegal. How are they able to do this?


      All the regulations in the world are nothing but lip service when the regulators are full of shit. The US government needs to earn some level of trust before many people will give them the benefit of the doubt. After all, it would not be out of the realm of possibility for the US government to use net neutrality in untoward ways. For example, the US government taxes the telephone industry to support regulations (among other things), and the net neutrality rulings placed internet under the same rules as telephones. What is stopping the US government from finding another potential tax windfall in the internet? We are supposed to trust that they won't do it. Just like we trusted that they would not spy on our phone calls.

    • RiverRunning

      1 week ago

      I have to say that the argument that the USA follows the rule of law has always been a vey flimsy one when it comes to corporations... hence films like Robocop... Have fun with that future (but remember that there was only one Robocop and the machine was probably mass manufactured along with thousands of others...

  • danvterra13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    Rooster Teeth now has two of the best discussions regarding Net Neutrality that I've seen.  Both this episode of Glitch Please, and this week's Dude Soup, have been the most detailed and informative discussions on this topic that I've seen.  Any time anybody has any questions regarding NN, I'll direct them to these two podcasts.  Thank you guys for discussing such a broad and convoluted topic in such a concise and easy-to-understand way.  Cheers for a long time fan. :)

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 week ago

    Damn Ryan complaining about low ping bastards and the whole Net neutrality issue made me so happy. So glad to here someone really getting into the issue. Seriously playing starcraft as a kid on dial up was so frustrating cuz as soon as i saw someone with ping in the 100s i knew i was screwed. Its why i mostly just played the campaign constantly. And this is just one facet of where paying for  better speed is pay to win. Seriously killing Net neutrality  will basically send us back to the 90s. And not in a good way. 

  • zentec FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    This show really needs to be live, I think there is so much fun you could do with this show with interaction with the audience live, such as polls and questions being done on the fly.

    • maka556 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      I agree, although I'd guess that they don't have a timeslot, or enough views to justify a live broadcast.  Watching old episodes of The Patch, I think the conversation would be a lot more animated if they weren't recording the podcast first thing in the morning.

  • woard FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 week ago

    I don't mean to be a dick but if some one tried to take my girlfriend, rem fair or not, I would knock them out.  Don't touch people without permission, why is that so hard for people.

  • JohnTallboy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Ashley's reaction to the kid being sued by Epic and his mother's claim that Epic can't prove anything was brilliant. Who says putting a video of you cheating on YouTube is proof? 

  • GamerAsh69 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Ash

    2 weeks ago

    Warning! If you are considering playing Doki Doki Literature Club, please reconsider if you have ever suffered from depression, self-harm, paranoia, or have ever considered suicide!! 
    This game does NOT mess around and it gets very messed up!!! 

    I've already heard first hand accounts from people saying they didn't think the warnings were that serious or they didn't think the game was that bad, until they played it.

    Now some of them have had nightmares and flashbacks!!! 


    PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND DO NOT PLAY IF YOU ARE UNSURE IF YOU WILL BE TRIGGERED BY IT!

    If you really want to know what the game is about or see it for yourself, but don't want to play it.

    Consider watching a let's play on Youtube. I know that Jesse Cox has played some and Jacksepticeye is currently playing it as well. I'm sure there are others as well. 


    Remember to stay safe and take care of yourself above all else!  tucker

    • scython13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 week ago

      Man, I wish I had seen this earlier. I played it a couple days ago, and very much regretted it.

  • scorcher117 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I was right. they heavily spoiled Doki Doki Literature Club. :( I really wish Ashley hadn't done that and that Ben had stopped her since he Apparently knew of it.

  • scorcher117 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    See's thumbnail, oh hey a mainstream youtube group is actually gonna mention DDLC, they are probably gonna spoil it aren't they :/

  • Ryokugan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold 俺はのんびりやるために生まれてきた。

    2 weeks ago

    Once you get to the net neutrality point, can you please cut that part out and put it out for everyone by itself. Send it out to every member of congress, get it on reddit, just distribute it far and wide.

  • PureMatty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    prison architect

  • Ryokugan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold 俺はのんびりやるために生まれてきた。

    2 weeks ago

    Battlefront 2 multiplayer is a lot of fun (bullshit progression system aside), but I really didn't care much for the campaign. It seemed really uninspired to me, honestly. 

  • theodorex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Star Wars concept artist Ralph McQuarrie. I don't believe there was a white Darth Vader but I could be wrong.. there definitely was a white Boba Fett & there's pics if you care to google it. 

    • theodorex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      ok so you guys got to Ralph McQuarrie a bit after..

  • maverickmak FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Ryan absolutely bossing that NN segment!

  • JoyBones FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    This was a good episode and I'm glad they explained net neutrality a bit more comprehensively. 

  • LunarTemplar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    I loved your inclusion of Doki Doki Literature Club. I have it (and another visual novel Ryan mentioned on a past episode) downloaded and started (because who can turn away a free game right?), but I havent gotten very far in them. On another note with the talk of EA and the star wars licensing and games, Im really hoping for a star wars RPG, like a KOTOR 3 kinda thing (i want KOTOR 3), rather than just shooters (though a Republic Commando sequel would be awesome). I am surprised at the lack of star wars games theyve made/announced, and can only hope that they release more in the future (and in this hope that these new star wars games arent just to make money but good games themselves. Ik they are a business and money is important, but i feel that making the games entertaining and fun should be a priority that isnt overlooked for the opportunity to try and bleed players of their money, lookin at you microtransactions)

    • RiverRunning

      1 week ago

      Be careful with DDLC... see other comments who explain it better than I can.

  • EricHVela FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Eric Hohoho! Vela

    2 weeks ago

    While adding this to my queue, I see the linkdump, and I am all excited for this episode!