Do You Even OWN Your CONSOLE? Supreme Court Weighs In

Tech and Science News: Do You Even OWN Your CONSOLE? Supreme Court Weighs In

There's been an ongoing legal battle between patent owners and users about who actually OWNS the console you bought and what you're allowed to do with it. Self repair? Modding? All part of it. The Supreme Court has now weighed in on a case that may set the precedent for hardware ownership and pave the way for future software cases.

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  • Teagaaaaaaan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    companies can still say however that if you modify a product it no longer is protected by whatever protections they provide like security software in computers "ope there's a new hard drive in that laptop no more windows defender for you" kinda scary kinda not scary I dunno

  • kaikaips3 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm a simple constitutional law student: I see Supreme Court, I click

  • Phatnaru FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Darn straight! Guess, who's gonna go mod in some custom themes on their 3DS? This guy!

  • Shmittles FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I don't know how much of this will actually end up affecting me in a practical sense, but I like the mentality behind this decision. Ownership and the ability to do what I want with the things that I buy (within reason) are a big deal to me.

  • EricHVela FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Microsoft Weirdos 10

    3 months ago

    I do not see this court case having any effect on the licensing of software or software-based services. Intangible things are in a different legal realm. Problems arise when people try to (want to) treat them as physical property. It's a disparate situation.

  • peckpogydah FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Peckpogydah

    3 months ago

    Gus - "Wow, people still use printers, huh?"


    What does that even mean?

  • MartyGras2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Am I the only one who reads thoses?


    You can actually own what you buy? Noo...that can't be true.  :)

    But in all seriousness, I super happy about this.

  • Cpt_Clueless333 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    WOO! Huge win for us as gamers. I am very happy to see this day. 

  • JDom717 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    My dad helped design most of those printers. Its so weird to see the company he worked for 20+ years in the middle of a huge court case and news story. Luckily he has a much better job now. I understand that they want to maintain their loss-leader model to make money, but you can't try to claim ownership of something that was purchased from you

  • AceofAces007 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Ugh, as a attorney, those lawyer jokes at the end were doubly cringe-worthy for me.

    • GreenBull92 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Keeper of Blarg

      3 months ago

      I guess that makes you an "Ace Attorney" then right?  yang

    • AceofAces007 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      You are not the first, nor will you be the last, to make that joke.

  • Kindyno FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I work at a Costco. We do ink cartridge refills in our photo department, so if it is illegal to refill cartridges then we could be in big trouble for doing so.

  • camdunne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    • AceofAces007 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Right. This is less of a win for modders and more of a win for right to repair. After all, when you repair something, you're not changing the design of the device. Rather, you're fixing a broken part in order to restore the device to its original design. Modifying a device however, is a different story, one that isn't really decided here.

      When those cases inevitably make their way in front of the Supreme Court, this case will provide the kind of precedent needed to take the conclusions drawn here to their next logical step.

    • RiverRunning

      3 months ago

      It should be noted, however, that for those of us in the EU (for now) the majority of click-wrap EULA's are indeed null and void in the EU (Microsoft were the ones who caused this to happen in the EU) and although this Supreme Court's decision only applies to the USA it is highly likely that a case in the EU would go the same way (particularly since it was so overwhelming; 7-1). So in the EU at least the chances of having problems over repairing and modding hardware (only) are much slimmer, as long as you don't tinker with the software - so routing around the chip that does the DRM in hardware would probably be legal; inserting a chip to disable it through software probably not. BUT IANAL so go hire a good one to defend you if you plan on trying this and making money from it!