Bethesda GETS LEGAL on Fanmade Content

Game News: Bethesda GETS LEGAL on Fanmade Content

We all though Bethesda was the chosen one, but it looks like even they've got a case of the cease and desist order bug. Despite the company being super mod friendly, it looks like one Doom fan might have stepped a little too far by trying to Kickstart a game based on a fan project he made 14 years ago.

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  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    It's actually odd that they've never done this before. Aren't they the same people that drop a cease and desist anytime someone uses scrolls or fallout in their title?

  • MartyGras2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    It was great back in through days.

    It was good way to see if I wanted to buy the game or not.

    It is ashame. 

  • Flux_Casey FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Strange interpretation of events. I can't see Bethesda/Zenimax doing this to shut down Jupiter Hell. It makes no sense. They aren't idiots. They know companies shutting down fan projects generates headlines (so to speak). News outlets pick it up and the project is given way more exposure than it already had. If they were trying to shut down Jupiter Hell, they have instead exponentially increased the number of people who know about Jupiter Hell and therefore increased the chances of it getting funded.


    Again, they aren't idiots. That can't be their end goal because they would know it wouldn't work. That being said, I can't even fathom what their actual reason was. Protecting the trademark doesn't fly since if it were that they wouldn't be heaping praises on other fan projects. They'd be shutting those down too.

    • GeminixKross FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      To be honest, we can't rule out the possibility that maybe this is an odd way for Bethesda/Zenimax to help promote Jupiter Hell. For all we know, there may even be an agreement between Kisielewicz and Bethesda kind of a "we'll shut this thing down since its so old, which will generate headlines for you're new project, and we get a cut of possible profits" deal. I honestly don't think it's very likely cause I'm sure there'd be better ways to do it, but It's just so unlike Bethesda to do something like this.

  • RiverRunning

    9 months ago

    Sounds like a dick move by Bethesda to me... for such an old game they have already lost the trademark grounds anyway, it's not like this is the first time they can have been aware of it. Which is irrelevant anyway since there are thousands of other Doom projects out there using that name that have not been shutdown. This is straight up trying to drown a new project with a backstab rather than being honest about it.


    The worst bit about this is that Doom wasn't theirs when DoomRL became available; it has spent most of its life under a different domain and then just now it gets singled-out  still years after Bethesda should have been doing this for trademark reasons... definitely dicks.

  • WarWizardM

    9 months ago

    Actually Zenimax had to do this, a trademark has to be enforced by its holder if he wants to keep it. The fan overstepped the fair use of the trademark by promoting his own commercial project using it. If they do nothing, someone else could contest the Doom trademark on the ground that the holder has abandoned it. Or at least that was what I've been told by a lawyer.

    • RiverRunning

      9 months ago

      "Protecting their trademark" is a stupid argument when there are thousands of things out there using your trademark (which isn't in the UK I believe since "Doom" is a word) and have been for years with your knowledge (if you ever bothered to use, say, Google, like once). On top of that they are sniping one out of the lot... I call that bullshit and your argument clearly specious - you're just supporting them blindly.

    • AxelDrake FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      River, it's about the fact that he's now developing his own game and using his reputation for having made DoomRL that gives them the need to actually do this move. If the game does poorly or is a bad representation of the genre, and it links back to Doom in anyway, they want to avoid any blow back that would result. It's an extreme set of circumstances that would allow this, but it's a matter of looking at the worst case scenario, and determining how it would change the perceptions of investors and sponsors. And they also have to look at what they think would cause more damage to their reputation in the worst case scenarios. Do they cancel a fan project (which they're known for doing almost the exact opposite), or potentially allow a game to exist that might trace it's way back to one of their keystone franchises. No matter how small that might is, it's still something they have to carefully analyze and determine acceptable risks, costs of risk management, fallout (heh), and a whole laundry list of other legal and business practices. In the end, our opinions on this matter like the dirt on the ground to them because they've likely been discussing this for months, have already figured out the backlash for their actions, and have determined that to be a better option than to possibly allow negative criticism of a game that is 2 steps removed from one of their important building blocks.