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  • ryanbusch FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    the way yo worded that was like you were trying to explain the steam engine to the 1700s

  • Insert1coin

    3 years ago

    I was mentioned at the beginning of the video >:D

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    3 years ago



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  • Jerran FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wheres the Beef?

    3 years ago

    You and I are the exact same with games Ashley! I blast through games until I reach the end. Then I don't want the experience to end so I stop playing the game. I have too many back logged games that I just need to finish.

  • burg42 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I think I might like the patch more than the regular podcast. Maybe there is something wrong with me...

  • Joseph011296 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I'm getting annoyed by them joking about early access games on steam like they are some stupid fad that only idiots support, especially Adam from a few weeks ago.
    They seem to forget that Minecraft was an early access game (played that since Alpha myself) and that selling the game before it's out allows the developers the chance to focus on the game
    I look at all my entertainment through the lens of Cost/Time played. If that ratio hits 1 or less it means that I payed less than a dollar per hour of entertainment.
    A retail game right now I might play 10-20 hours of just to finish the "content" and I rarely make the ratio a 1 or less.
    With Early Access the ratio becomes much easier to balance
    Example: I paid $15 for Pixel tier backing in Starbound, I've played it 34 hours to date, my ratio is .44 cent an hour
    I bought Gnomoria on sale for 2.50 a while back (it's current price is 7.99) and I've played 200 hours to date, with another 2-3 hours everytime a content patch is released, The ratio is .0125 Cents an hour (.04 cents if going by normal price)
    I bought NEO Scavenger For $10 and have played 40 hours so far, the Ratio is .25 cents and hour
    They also talk about FTL, that game had a beta for kickstarter backers and was so good I bought it on both GOG and Steam.
    I would rather gamble on spending a pittance on a game that's in development than $60 for a game that I've only heard about through its hype engine.
    Not to say I don't buy retail games, I'm just more selective of what I buy.
    But yeah don't condemn a burgeoning type of game just because you don't see the point.

  • spider92 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    As someone who has had 0 hours hands on with these "consoles" it will be interesting to see how the full release Steam OS compares to big picture mode and the steam app for both OSX and Windows. This for me is really the only thing that still interests me about the steam machines. It has to be fast, precise and able to sustain a heavy load over a sustained period of time. The controller still looks like something a little more accurate than the current (and previous) generation of consoles with more physical buttons and the dual trackpads trying to give the shortcuts pc gamers are used to. Perhaps I will scout out some display cases and give them a try.

  • Overdrive777

    3 years ago

    When playing Starbound first thing I suggest is reading the codex entries. Upper right hand of the screen click the book icon and read the control yourself entry for game controls. It is removed after some point so you may need to make a new character. The other entries have background info about your character and interesting stories. You can find more codex entries in generated structures on every planet.

    Just because a game doesn't give you specific instructions doesn't mean the game is bad. A big part of games like Starbound is figuring out the mechanics and so on. One more point to add is there will be just one more character wipe in the up and coming update which they plan on adding something in so you can keep your characters after updates. So, wait a little before going in too much.

  • FinalUrchin1

    3 years ago

    I simply love the patch, it gives you so much information and alot of entertainment

  • nittro1996

    3 years ago

    On the subject of walking speed, I wanted to mention that I think Assassin's Creed (at least brotherhood to AC3) addresses that problem better than anyone. When you lock on to an NPC during an important conversation, it automatically adjust your walking speed and/or the NPC seemlessly

  • JayBrovey706

    3 years ago

    I love the patch :D

  • JesseSpitzer

    3 years ago

    I don't think I'm going to waste my time on the Steam machines. It seems like a waste of money.

    • PMAvers

      3 years ago

      Funny, I have the same thoughts when I look at the PS4 and XB One. Especially when you have to pay a extra monthly fee as well to use basic features.

  • SuperflyX

    3 years ago

    E3 was actually a spin-off of C.E.S. When gaming became to big to accommodate with all the tech in one convention and the ECA was created a new trade show was started.

  • glitch14

    3 years ago

    Hmm seems like they really glossed over the whole Playstation Now anouncement. I really thought that would have been a bigger part of the discusion this week. I mean streaming PS3 games on a Vita sounds crazy to me. I really would have been curious to hear more of their opinions on the latency other issues.

  • kalman79 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Ashley get an xkey [link=http://xk3y.com/]

  • Tha_krulll

    3 years ago

    In Alien: Isolation you play as Ellen Ripley's daughter... Amanda Ripley. And you are trying to figure out what happened to your mother. I can only speculate how the gameplay will be, but I am pretty sure that it will be similar to Amnesia: The Dark Descent. You are walking around looking for answers. But at the same time you need to hide from a foe that you can not defeat. So it will be a dark and scary story where you have to run and hide from the enemies that you meet.

    It will be so good! :D

  • Orbi FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Waterboarding Taliban Ki

    3 years ago

    I bought that papers please game and I failed in the 3rd day how the do you play that game?

  • AstuteLlama

    3 years ago

    I need to go download Fallout 1 and 2 now

  • Tha_krulll

    3 years ago

    "Webhallen" Haha :) That sounded so funny how she pronounced it :P

  • DomEReapeR FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I am freaking out, I'm in that Yellow Jacket video with Klyka and Helloween, and you guys talked about it here! x3

    Edit: Maybe I should clarify, I'm not one of the guys being robbed xD

    Post edited 1/10/14 5:03AM

  • crissren

    3 years ago

    If someone is interested in finding out more about gaming in China I recently made a journal about it.

  • NathanVella

    3 years ago

    He we go, Got my Energy Drink & ready to watch another great episode of the Patch:)

  • Scyth0r FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Surprised Ashely didn't know that Chris Avellone worked on probably the best-written RPG of all time - Planescape: Torment. I still play it occasionally when the mood strikes me. Morte is awesome.

    Also, his twitter is always worth reading. twitter.com/ChrisAvellone

    Post edited 1/10/14 4:01AM

  • kellsash

    3 years ago

    I'm weird though. I feel like I'm more likely to buy a steam machine than a gaming PC.

  • Deewreck

    3 years ago

    Ya I have no clue what was being said

  • mathewj

    3 years ago

    just had to point out that gus was wrong about the WoW not having a run button
    your running all the time but pressing / makes you walk
    Its also slightly slower then npc walk speed

  • nickpurpura FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I love that Yellow Jacket DayZ video, best thing I've seen all day!

  • anotherputz

    3 years ago

    Sweet Dismemberment Plan shirt!

  • ItsAlexHere

    3 years ago

    I don't think I would get a steam machine simply because It would limit me more to gaming rather than what ever I would want to do on a PC - Gaming, Editing, etc.

  • Celynn

    3 years ago

    The point of the Steam OS is that it's not Windows. Windows does not care about gaming and it's not designed for gaming. On the Windows 8 launch there was a lot of controversy concerning its ability to run games without huge overhead. It was a poorly designed system. Valve is hoping to push gaming onto Linux platforms. This would be beneficial for the gaming community as a whole. If Linux sees a growth in its user base it will be able improve its functionality and grow. Ubuntu is actually doing quite well these days. As far as game companies go, most indie developer support Linux. So we're already seeing some shift towards a new OS. Now we just need to push the triple A companies to start doing it too. The hope with Steam OS is that this will give them that push.

    I'm supportive of the Steam Box. It's not meant to replace the console. It's not meant to unseat Sony and Microsoft. It's filling its own niche. Some people don't want to think about their computer when they buy it. They just want something that plays Steam games. I think it's brilliant that there's so many options out there for them to choose. If it helps push Linux support, the better for me and gaming in general. I'd love to be able to wash my hands of Windows. It's expensive and they're moving in a direction that scares me from the perspective of open source computers. I don't want another Apple. There's nothing wrong with liking Mac, but they're typically very closed source.

  • Donosaur

    3 years ago

    There needs to be a Gus cam from now on whenever he's not on the podcast.

  • Phantasos12 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    (accidental repost...carry on)

    Post edited 1/09/14 10:04PM

  • Phantasos12 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I don't know if anyone else caught it...but there was some subliminal Gus there during the introductions. C'mon Gus, you already get 2 introductions. Isn't that enough for you?

  • karmap0lice

    3 years ago

    I really like the patch. It's the only tech-related news that speaks on all the things I'm interested in without any blabbering. The times they fall off topic ends up being really comedic so it's always a win-win

  • Spybreak

    3 years ago

    Yeah sorry I can't get excited about an Alien game ever, until there's reviews and gameplay out of course -- own the Aliens Anthology. I like the design, like Gus said the Razer Modular PC is neat, but yeah it's gonna be overpriced proprietary hardware unfortunately.

  • test001 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I learned that an old viking saying "An arrow to the knee" is an saying about being married. Like going down on one knee to ask for a hand in marriage...so when Skyrim guards say "I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took and arrow to the knee" actually means "I used to be an adventurer like you, until I settled down"

  • 0ut3rsp4ce

    3 years ago

    I think I might have to get a Steam machine seeing as how I don't have a computer that I can game on, and a ton of games on Steam that I bought when they had the summer sale.

  • ninjacake FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Senzu Bean!!!

    3 years ago

    In response to @Ryan about the new Alien game. I think this one is taking the Amnesia/Outlast approach. Just because you can not actively defend yourself at all times does not mean there is not some decent gameplay and some great narrative to keep you interested. That said the Alien games do not have the best track record in my opinion. We have to wait and see I guess.

    Post edited 1/09/14 8:49PM

  • FlyingRednecks

    3 years ago

    I've had next-gen consoles in stock since day one, for some reason everyone I know seems to be boycotting consoles in favor of PC's.

  • nanaki254

    3 years ago

    hopefully playstation now won't suffer like OnLive.

  • SiphonHalo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I think that was the best patch I've seen so far. Everyone's knowledge of the industry really shone through on this one and I found myself getting pumped about a lot of the new developments with swappable hardware towers being on the top of my interest list now.

    Great Patch guys, keep it up.

  • Arcanon_Noir

    3 years ago

    I agree with Ryan, I really don't see the point in the Steam Machines, I get they're trying to push Linux but I don't understand why they need to make a console to do so. Even with the Steam Machine’s Library of 250 games, of which, most people already have, you need to know your way around a Steam Machine that ultimately uses the same specs of what you would need to know about PCs. So if the targeted crowd is console gamers to ‘introduce’ them into PC Gaming, they’re better off learning to build a PC and just using that.

    Or in a recent article, Valve's Jeff Cain suggested that Steam Machine was created to give its existing audience a way to bring their Steam experience into the living room. So then, I'm wondering why don't they complete Big Picture Mode? I get some people don't want to move around their PC from room to room but you don't exactly need a 'Gaming PC' to play most of Steam's games, you could go make a cheap PC with a HDMI port and use that in your living room.

    I'll probably get the controller but other than that, I don't see myself buying a Steam Machine. Even if Steam does make it's games transition to Linux, I could just dual-boot my PC.

  • micosborne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    My water is contaminated in West Virginia due to a chemical leak. Good thing the Patch hydrates me!

  • Rhyfel AgentPhoenix

    3 years ago

    Bulletstorm has walk speed synced to your character and Ishi/Other characters.
    Bioshock Infinite probably has the best AI companion of any game so far and I don't care what Michael says about RE4 :P.
    Elizabeth catch's up to you, walks ahead of you, and syncs Booker's speed.
    Most good games fixed that old issue of running around the slow ass character walkspeed.

  • thebaptis22

    3 years ago

    That was the first Patch i watched but it won't be the last.

  • Gibsonites

    3 years ago

    In response to Ryan's comments about an Alien game where you never actually fight the alien, I'd suggest he check out Outlast. You never directly attack a single enemy in that game, spending the whole time hiding and running, and that was one of the best horror games I've ever played.

    • Orbi FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Waterboarding Taliban Ki

      3 years ago

      I need a weapon

  • tanukivilla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    If you're going to mention that the Xbox One is only being sold in 13 countries, then you should probably mention why. Namely that most of the Xbox One's non-gaming functionality isn't available or working in countries other than those 13 and we all knew this would be an issue since this summer (www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-one-supported-in-21-countries-may-not-work-in-unsupported-regions-1159233 n4g.com/news/1279590/xbox-one-pre-order-product-information-xbox-one-to-only-work-in-certain-countries-at-launch)

  • cencalsomoco FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Cobra Commander in Chief

    3 years ago

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  • Mr_Hairball FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    The Steam Machine seemed fantastic in its initial premise. It seemed like a Steam console would have been an affordable alternative to a gaming PC. I don't know why we thought that.

    • tanukivilla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      OK, if you're not going to give me actual specs we've come to an impasse. Valve has listed what their min spec is for a Steam Machine so if you're not going to list what your specs are for a "proper gaming PC" we simply have nothing to compare.

    • Mr_Hairball FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      Basically something that's going to have good longevity. Something that in, say, five years will still be able to handle what's coming out without trouble.

    • tanukivilla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      I think it depends on what you mean by the term "proper gaming PC". What are the specs you are using to classify a PC as of the "proper gaming" variety?

    • Mr_Hairball FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      Well, yes and no. Yeah there are a couple of models of Steam Machine for $500, but for one that's comparable to a proper gaming PC, you're going to be shelling out a fair bit more.

    • tanukivilla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      Because they are? It all depends on the model of Steam Machine you are looking at but some of them are priced cheaper than a gaming PC, like the one by IBuyPower (www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/ibuypower-sbx/)

  • lMakeRetro

    3 years ago

    If you could only run in games then you would always feel slow, no matter how fast you're actually moving.