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  • NordsFTW

    3 years ago

    I'm just happy you guys pronounced Oregon correctly. People who say 'Ore-ee-gone' deserve to be anally fed a cactus.

  • NordsFTW

    3 years ago

    I'm just happy you guys pronounced Oregon correctly. People who say 'Ore-ee-gone' deserve to be anally fed a cactus.

  • ninjaspectre FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold PA Guardian v2

    3 years ago

    I just now got around to watching this episode of The Patch. I think @Burnie had the most intelligent argument against Bioshock Infinite and I absolutely loved it. This year was particularly hard to pick a game of the year. I feel like GTA V and The Last of Us are almost polar opposites in their qualities. I believed that GTA V excelled in developing an enticing world around the characters making the story seem better than it was, while The Last of Us excelled in a similar way but with focus on character development.

  • Orbaku FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Diggin the RVB music in the background during the staff picks smiley13.gif

  • Galym3d3

    3 years ago

    Am I the only on who is excited about inFamous: Second Son? It looks so damn good!

  • MrTLatch FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Props to RT for choosing a PS3 exclusive...I WANT MORE!!!

  • SomeKindofCaveDemon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    DAMN I wish The Patch had broken its 1 hour rule for this episode! So much great discussion! And so much left untouched!

  • 1Threshold1

    3 years ago

    I love looking at the comparisons in Walking Dead, but I'm almost always in the minority (except for the big, obvious choice or two). What I really appreciate about those comparisons is sometimes, it's hard to tell if being the minority means you're a cold bastard or if you're one of the few decent human beings. Of course I'm gonna save the girl who can shoot instead of the tech guy (season 1)...no use for electronics unless you can survive long term, but gotta get there first smiley4.gif !

  • Diggs13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I don't want to be this guy, but Burnie, at the end that should have been Games of the Year rather than Game of the Years.

  • dbREAPERdb

    3 years ago

    Kickball, 1976 that was the game!

  • Kyvos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Stardust, awaaay!

    3 years ago

    The problem with The Last of Us is that while it was a beautiful, amazing story, the gameplay was only average. I watched my brother play through it, and I fell asleep while he was scavenging. I played it myself, and I couldn't finish. Trying to collect everything is unbearably boring, meaning that it has so little replay value. And for a game of its length, that's a huge downfall. And for a game where its strongest point is the story, having no choice at such a crucial point was just awful. For online, the stuff between games was really cool, but the matches themselves were unbalanced and uninteresting. It wasn't any fun.

    The one moment that I had that summarizes most of my experience was when I tried to recommend the game to a friend. I honestly couldn't tell them that they needed to play it. My recommendation was that they watch someone else play through it, and for that, I really couldn't give it game of the year.

  • Kyvos FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Stardust, awaaay!

    3 years ago

    The problem with The Last of Us is that while it was a beautiful, amazing story, the gameplay was only average. I watched my brother play through it, and I fell asleep while he was scavenging. I played it myself, and I couldn't finish. Trying to collect everything is unbearably boring, meaning that it has so little replay value. And for a game of its length, that's a huge downfall. And for a game where its strongest point is the story, having no choice at such a crucial point was just awful. For online, the stuff between games was really cool, but the matches themselves were unbalanced and uninteresting. It wasn't any fun.

    The one moment that I had that summarizes most of my experience was when I tried to recommend the game to a friend. I honestly couldn't tell them that they needed to play it. My recommendation was that they watch someone else play through it, and for that, I really couldn't give it game of the year.

  • Preditor117

    3 years ago

    Heart of The Swarm not eligible? Fuck guys, you got some work to do by next year's award! Fix those categories pronto!

  • wyndy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Jizanthapus

    3 years ago

    Yikes. I'm sorry but I feel like Burnie and Gus just shouldn't talk about Nintendo games because every time they do they have no clue what they're talking about. Burnie really could not have been more wrong about New Leaf. If you honestly think it's anything like the first game then you must've not played one of them. I wouldn't call it GOTY material either but that reasoning was just terribly wrong.

  • PvtChuckles

    3 years ago

    Thought you guys would choose something generic like GTA or AC4, glad you chose a game thats different and will be remembered for many years to come.

  • lMakeRetro

    3 years ago

    Wouldn't it make more sense to split the downloadable category into best indie game, and best expansion content. Also viewing downloadable games as less than "retail games" kind of counters Burnies whole anti-physical media argument.

  • JackPlum

    3 years ago

    wow still need to catch up on these

  • Donosaur

    3 years ago

    In Walking Dead season 2 I feel like the choices are much more cookie-cutter than the original. The reason why half your choices at the end were so similar to others is because it's the obvious moral decision. In the original there was more grey area, as opposed to in other games like infamous or mass effect.

    Hopefully it starts to change in episode 2.

  • Blu3fox FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Papers, please ftw

  • Kxpuc FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I'm still wondering why it's taking the Achievement Hunt guys so long to spend $30-50 on some HDMI splitters so they can record playing on the PS4 instead of just waiting out for Sony to patch out the HDCP in the summer

  • APrecursor FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Can't believe they didn't even mention Destiny for most anticipated of 2014.

  • TheB1ackAdderr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Oh man, just hearing the game mechanic of Papers Please stresses me out. In fourth grade my elementary school in New Jersey had an Ellis Island recreation day. All of the students in the grade were given an identity and mission to do that day. I was randomly chosen to be one of the people in the final immigration check point which is basically the person the play in Papers Please. Other kids were doctors or financial checkers or just immigrants, some completely healthy, others with illnesses that they had to hide or else they'd be deported. It was incredibly stressful for me at the end because there were so many people in line and I had to check them all. So as it got later, I got less careful about making sure everyone's information was correct and I wasn't letting in criminals or sick people. I still remember how stressful it was and just thinking about Papers Please makes me anxious. Haha

  • JustVlad FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold No idea ...

    3 years ago

    Ray was hilarious!

  • bogwire

    3 years ago

    Another great episode! I don't know why everyone is so down on Bioshock Infinite though. That games' story may not be full-proof, but man did I enjoy it! I would have to say it was definitely my game of the year.

  • gdawgtuk

    3 years ago

    I am a bit bummed that the Steam game "No More Room in Hell" was not mentioned while talking about Zombies. It released on Halloween and remains completely free. It has a HUGE community and great reviews!

  • iHenao

    3 years ago

    I'm so glad The Last of Us won GOTY. No mention of InFamous: Second Son though for anticipated game :(

  • Wogle

    3 years ago

    I'm very happy with the choices!

    Although, I think I know what Burnie is talking about in terms of the narrative choice in The Last of Us. If you've seen the "alternative ending" you'll see it was originally supposed to be a cut-scene, but they obviously changed it as they wanted the player to be involved in it.

  • Tylerfeague

    3 years ago

    I didn't have an opportunity to play all of the games, but in my opinion Tomb Raider was the best game I played in 2013. I loved playing through that story. I can't wait to play it again.

  • bobzombie3k FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I wish this edition was 2 hours cause I enjoyed it and there was so much to talk about. I respect the fact they want to keep it to an hour (and even more respect for keeping to their word) but this needed the extended version.

  • MFabius

    3 years ago

    They should have more gaming categories like Best in Gameplay, Best in Narrative, Best in Visuals, and Best Voice Actor in addition to Best Game in Retail and in Download. Granted, in that case they would probably need twice the time.

  • astrogenesis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Seeing as though they have moved the gaming awards over to The Patch, I think they should have more than just the two awards.
    I think four categories would be good.

    Best Multi-Platform Game
    Best Exclusive
    Best Digital Download Only
    Best DLC Pack (Map pack, game expansion, etc)

  • Karan03 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    First podcast I watched live. Sponsorship was totally worth it. smiley0.gif

  • AlexQueen

    3 years ago

    Sure as heck wasn't the last game in the most recent lets play! Holy crap that game was either boring or you guys played it boring, either way that game was turrrrrible!!

  • HOWtwoROCK

    3 years ago

    I still think 1 hour is still to short for the patch. Another extra 30 minutes would make the experience better

    • Joseph011296 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      Or even just do the "awardcasts" as "bonus" podcasts so they don't interfere with the normal ones (kinda like spoilercasts)

    • Joseph011296 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      They need to stop fighting it, it seems like every week for like 3 months they have still had things they need to talk about but the hour limit stopped them. If people "like" smaller podcasts they are the people who will just pause a long one for later

  • Andy_Hare FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Really enjoyed the discussion, would agree that it was tough to choose out of that great list. Would have Destiny as the game I most look forward to for 2014.

  • NathanVella

    3 years ago

    I honestly thought GTAV would win

  • DJAdori

    3 years ago

    Unfortunate shirt for Ryan to wear, especially when it folds on itself...

  • NathanVella

    3 years ago

    Just started the video & i already know its gonna be a good one.

  • walker6300 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    GTA 5 has won it for me

  • Spybreak

    3 years ago

    I love the nod to State of Decay and Blood Dragon, two of my favorites, but I'm starting to getting the feeling that nobody at RT has played the Breakdown for State of Decay! Granted it's DLC but it's pretty much like a whole new game for SoD. You have a sandbox mode where you don't get interrupted or put off by the story and you do whatever you need to survive. There's a RV that you have to repair and then escape and you'll face increasingly more difficult levels to where the point of you don't want to even be seen by any zombie, there's so much shit going on.

    Citadel felt goofy at times but they really laid the fan service on thick. Like Leviathan it was disappointing that you still had to deal with the way everything would end but the experiences and moments before then with both DLC are amazing. I mean come on, you fight yourself *minor spoiler, with Cidatel (aside from hanging out on the Citadel with crew and combat simulator) and learn about the origins of things with Leviathan. Still all time favorite DLC for Mass Effect goes to Lair of the Shadow Broker though.

    Also really love Battleblock Theater but it's not game of the year worthy. Perfect solo or co-op title though and the level editor had given me hours more of play even though I still haven't finished that game. I gotta finish my X-Com playthrough and my Tomb Raider playthrough as well. Quite frankly buried with games so I could care less about expensive machines to play a very few really good ones.

    Oh if people haven't done any research on Brothers, do it and you might need a tissue when you do. Horrible that it happened to the director but that game holds a new light when you know that information. Didn't get all the achievements, even though I explored all over in the game, but I might go back some day and relive that. Thought the gameplay for Brothers was on the light side though, only biggest drawback.

    Need to pick up Saints Row the Third, I think with THQ dissolved that it's a miracle that Saints Row 4 came out and not just as DLC either.

  • branisme

    3 years ago

    The ME3 DLC I loved the most was Leviathan. God that was so much fun!

  • Molecule9

    3 years ago

    For me it would be a toss up between GTA V or The Walking Dead, thoroughly enjoyed both games smiley1.gif . Even though it isn't the question but my game of the previous gen console's would have to be Skyrim.

    What would be your favourite game of the previous generation anyone? smiley12.gif

  • WillTodd FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    Ashley can talk and talk smiley3.gif

  • Matt317 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold the guy

    3 years ago

    I'm surprised no one brought up Tiny Tina's Assault on the Dragon Keep for Borderlands 2 for best downloadable game/add-on, easily one of the best DLCs for last year. Was there just no one at RT who played it?

    Also, what was there not to like about Citadel? It was essentially a celebration of Shepards history with his crew over the course of 3 games mixed with alot of funny character moments and interactions.

    "No one gives a shit about Bioshock 2." Really now? Regardless of whether or not you thought it was or wasn't as good as the original, there were simply WAY too many good things in that game to just write the whole thing off. In fact, there were some things in 2 that I wished were in Infinite, particularly with the villains. Comstock might have been a good villain, but he didn't get nearly as much direct interaction time with Booker (and the player) as Sophia Lamb had with Subject Delta. All through the game she would always taunt and demean you, either through the radio or indirect means, just as Andrew Ryan and Fontaine did. With Comstock with get a handful good confrontations. There wasn't even a crazy sub-villain on par with Sander Cohen or Alexander the Great. Cornelius Slate seemed to fit the bill, but we barely got any time with him. Same with Fink. It's hard to create these kind of player-villain interactions since the main characters would always jump to another universe where different interactions already occurred but the player has no memory of them. Bioshock 2 also had plenty well-written dialogue and character moments in it as well, along with improved gameplay carried over from 1. And let's not forget Minerva's Den, which was also a great standalone story in its own right.

    In the end, while it may have followed Bioshock 1 a little too closely, Bioshock 2 had alot of good stuff in it, and defiantly doesn't deserve being snubbed and ignored so lightly (or being called "total shit" in Gus' case).

    //end rant

    It's nice seeing The Last of Us get the top pick though. And like y'all said, even though it seemed like a typical post-apocalyptic story, it was told very well with a lot of great character moments that made it all worth it by the end.

    Overall, 2013 was a great year for gaming, and here's hoping 2014 is even better. smiley0.gif

    • Matt317 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold the guy

      3 years ago

      I know, right? It had a very touching ending (or horrifying if that's how you chose smiley8.gif ).

      I also don't get why Burnie decides to call Infinite the "recovery" sequel, like Bioshock 2 was this major setback in the franchise that everyone hated and Infinite is what made it good again. It makes me wonder how much of Bioshock 2 that Burnie and Gus actually played.

    • Wild117

      3 years ago

      Yeah I loved Bioshock 2's story so much, it has one of the best endings a game could have IMO.
      And I agree that Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon's Keep was SO DAMN GOOD! smiley0.gif

  • funkmon

    3 years ago

    You guys are absolutely correct. The Last of Us was without a doubt the best game of the year. Possibly of the last two years,

  • Xergjo

    3 years ago

    YEAH BURNIE! Super Smash Bros. for Wii U! smiley0.gif

  • TrevorD FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 years ago

    I love this podcast for it's professionalism and it takes the gaming genre seriously. The cutting to Roosterteeth employees was nice until it went off course with the guys who should be the most knowledgable about games seeing how they play them all day. I really wish the AH guys weren't so biased towards Xbox. I would love to see PS videos. So many good PS3 games that would have been great Let's Plays like LittleBigPlanet.

    • Matt317 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold the guy

      3 years ago

      Don't worry. They said they'd be getting more PS4s once the HDCP patch comes out, so you can expect future Let's Plays on those soon. smiley8.gif

  • lukeglover80 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold RT is Great!

    3 years ago

    For 2014 I'd say, Assassins Creed w/e the next one is, Titanfall, Halo, Destiny, Uncharted 4 (if it comes out next year), Mario Kart or Smash Bros, just to throw some Nintendo ones in there :)

  • Rhyfel AgentPhoenix

    3 years ago

    I disagree with @Gus and @Burnie opinion about Saints IV. I do wonder how much of the game they played.
    There are two reasons why Saints IV is the 3rd best game of 2013, def nominee for GOTY.
    The main reason is that it Fixes a lot of issues every single open road game has, it's the best experience you could have on a open road game.
    Explaining that : Think of GTA V, GTA IV, Saints Third. Every single game that is open road always has it's issues about some mechanics. How you store a car, how you get to missions. How you manage your character.
    Saints IV was able to FIX all that bullshit, to save your car on Saints you hit UP on the D-Pad and it's done, to get to a mission you can sprint across buildings, or even teleport from the Ship, you have options to fully update your character at all times. Surely Saints would not WIN GOTY due to how many things GTA V has offered and stuff like that but, play GTA IV for 2 hours and you would get annoyed at how slow things go, play Saints IV for 6 hours and you would never notice how better it is, I think that's a great achievement.

    And the other thing is that the story is even more enjoyable than Saints Third, I don't understand Gus's point, "What is going to happened now on the game?" it's exactly how Saints IV goes. It has an entire level of a 2D Sidescrolling Beat'EmUp game, with 2/3 levels, and your custom clothing sprited into 2D graphics. It has the entire scene of Keith David, as Keith David, fighting Roddy Piper, as Roddy Piper, It has references to Predator, to Saints Third, to GTA, to everything. It's awesome.

    Also, not to talk too much about it but, there is a lot to say about ACIV. It's the best AC Game since AC2, the sailing Literally sells the game itself and it has way more, interesting plot, good progression, interesting secrets and story telling. And assassin stuff aswell everything.

  • myrifle308

    3 years ago

    ii was surprised that they never brought up the game "Beyond Two Souls" that was an amazing game i was very impressed with the story and the art direction 

    • Donosaur

      3 years ago

      It wasn't as bad as reviews were making it out to be. But the whole thing feels like you're on a safety rail the entire time. There's literally zero consequences for anything until the very last scene of the game. Whereas in Heavy Rain during your first playthrough you feel much more human in how one mistake could end it. It doesn't deserve all the backlash it got, but definitely not my game of the year.

      Post edited 1/19/14 5:08AM

    • TheB1ackAdderr FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 years ago

      I've only played the demo because I just got a PS3 and didn't have that much money left over for games. From what I've played, I agree that it is incredibly fun and a much different experience from what I'm used to which is basically Call of Duty on the 360. However, I can see AgentPhoenix's point about it being to linear and restrictive without explanation. I'm still going to play it when it comes down in price. To me that makes more sense because it is basically an interactive movie instead of game with a lot of replay-ability. Also, get a PS3 when you can afford it because it's coming down in price because of the PS4 and get PS+ because it is a great value. I got to play Uncharted 3 for free essentially and didn't miss out on anything because even though Uncharted 1 and 2 aren't a PS+ free download, I watched edited versions of them on youtube where they became movies and still had fun watching them. So yeah, get a PS3 when you can.

    • Rhyfel AgentPhoenix

      3 years ago

      Glad you replied :).
      I know what you mean about the style and getting used to the game's pace.
      Tho regardless, is not that I didn't liked the characters or something that specific, like on FC3 I just didn't liked the game's setting, but I could see the game had potential, specially on the gameplay.
      The game just tries a lot to do things and fails at the end, tries to give you emotions about characters leaving, but brings the characters back on a mission that takes place on the "past of the story". The game sets limits to Aiden's powers but then breaks those limits to fit the plot/mission. The game provides plot device skills to Aiden to fit each QTE, but then removes those skills once the QTE's are over. The game provides you with "options" as to how your character reacts to other characters, but regardless of what you pick the characters react the same way. Some character's are given "Anti Death" devices, and some of those "Anti Death" devices fail, with no explanation, while other "Anti Death" devices don't fail, those that don't fail are on the main characters :\.
      You are suppose to care for the character's health but how can you when the game removes mechanics just to fit a specific mission.

      Post edited 1/16/14 11:30PM

    • myrifle308

      3 years ago

      thank you for your response i didnt know what people would say about this game. i my self have never actually played beyond two souls due to the fact that i don't own a ps3 but i have watched extensive walk through's and have seen each different choice play out till the end. the first time i watched it played through i never felt that it was predictable each ending i felt was a surprise in its self. since i never played the game i don't know how it feels with the movement in the game but most of the game play i did watch it seemed kinda hard but they all managed.
      i know people also had the opinion that this game was more or less a interactive movie and while some scenes did feel this way when i watched it i felt that it was well put together. i my self an a 3D graphics designer and i always try to look at each aspect of the games including design. many games i feel have a great design aspect to them but lack in the story/dialog. Even though when i first started watching all the play through's of this game it felt weird when they jumped back and forth but i get use to it and how they transitioned to ether past or future. what it seams like you were saying was that you didnt connect with the character the way you would in other games, through out the first play through i watched i felt that i was thrown into the story and in a way felt what the characters felt. this could just be me but that is what i thought.

    • Rhyfel AgentPhoenix

      3 years ago

      Really? Please do reply with your honest opinion, I want to know exactly why you enjoyed that game.
      Beyond Two Farts was a terrible game, I respect your opinion tho, so this is why I say this.
      The story was not emotional and inconsistent, every "option" you have on the game is either broken by gameplay mechanics or by the story itself, telling you the "option" you picked actually wasn't an option at all. Also the "emotions" the game presents are broken by the fact that you KNOW characters go away, or die, or stuff, due to how the game plays "past and future" so then the "emotions" you are suppose to feel are just Not there. Specially when it relays so much on your "decisions".
      Example : "Character dies, feel sad" "Now play this mission with the character alive on the past, destroying the whole "feel sad" moment, which wasn't sad in the first place due to how little meaning the character had overall".
      The gameplay is inconsistent. The game it's a Bad Megaman game, you gain powerups on the future, which then you still HAVE the powerups on a "flashback" level. You can kill some targets, but some you cannot, why? Cuz the game says so, plot device, no actual reason. "Aiden can only move so far away from Jodie" "Watch as Aiden can move about 8 blocks away from Jodie, due to plot device, and cuz there is no other way to complete the level".
      The game is terrible, predictable, just another David Cage game.