The Patch #69

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The Patch Discusses Net Neutrality

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  • RiverRunning

    2 years ago

    Just had an interesting thought vis a vis Net Neutrality... if it goes away maybe the technology that's been hanging aroudn that allows networks, particularly wifi ones to create their own adhoc networks will become more widespread - I could see how the console manufacturers could hugely benefit if their consoles spread the network load away from the central network and instead created their own wifi network - in cities this would be a no brainer given how much consoles are used for these days - I'd be surprised if they are ever turned off - it would also potentially allow people to connect to PSN and XBox Live without needing an internet connection... definitely a marketing point, especially if the price of (useful) broadband access becomes higher!

  • micoankabose FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    True story: after they talked about the Freddi Fish speedrun, I brought it up to my brother because he and I both used to play Freddi Fish when we were kids. He then revealed to me that he is the guy they are talking about in the podcast who speedran it on youtube! Small world.. who knew XD (http://tinyurl.com/oyfap5a) check it out haha

  • RiverRunning

    2 years ago

    Loved the ad read but more seriously the discussion on Net Neutrality and Minecraft - seeing the gamer in Ryan vs the business suit in Burnie is good, if sobering - ultimately Microsoft, like any other corporation, is out there to make money, indie devs is another matter entirely though - it's a mix of everything and sometimes they are diamonds in the rough, but maximising the profitability of an intellectual property to get the highest ROI really just isn't something they're almost ever good at... that's why they get bought out and commercialised.
    Given the modding community surrouding Minecraft though, it seems unlikely that the idealised vision and version of its existance will fade for quite some time and efforts to create open source versions will very likely be hugely bolstered by people fleeing Microsoft (whether justified or not).

  • matrixrory FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Meg you've fallen into the trap and missed the point of #gamergate. Gamers want to talk about journalistic integrity and to talk about the obvious lies in femfreq videos. femfreq wants to talk about the abuse she is getting rather than address the lies in her videos. and creating this illusion that the only response she has had is abuse.

  • 1Threshold1

    2 years ago

    You know, not for nothing, I'm gonna sound like a cold-hearted prick here...which is no surprise as I'm always the minority that makes the hard choices in Walking Dead ( smiley6.gif ), but if some rabid mob (which is often what these groups end up degenerating into during riots) wants to rescue Ebola patients because they think its a lie...and the government actually is being straight up...then take all quarantine precautions and let them come into contact with these people. Something akin to natural selection there. It would be a horrible tragedy, but maybe people will think about other ways to make something happen other than mobs and rioting where plenty of bystanders and innocents get caught in the crossfire. That's a terrible thing to say, I know, but what else do you do in extreme cases aside from arrest everyone to prevent them from succeeding...which will likely just feed into the rumors and conspiracies further...

    "A person is smart. People are dumb panicky animals and you know it."
    -regardless of the source, it's true, unfortunately.
    smith-jones-shooting-men-in-black-3-14.j


    Post edited 9/15/14 11:41AM

  • AnimeDudeJ

    2 years ago

    here in Norway i generally dont buy games digital due to the more popular staying the same price or higher than what they were on release... MW2 is still 600NOK or 100 bucks i think.

    i researched a little and apparently they litteraly for some games take the dollar number from the US site and muyltiply it by ten and round up/down and that number is the Norwegian digital price

  • SailorGirl81 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Keeper Of Kittens

    2 years ago

    Who's a journalist? Others are debating this issue as well....

    www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-kent/whos-a-journalist...

  • cybasheep_

    2 years ago

    A modest proposal re. Net Neutrality: If your company does not want to be a utility for data, but instead break out the deep packet inspection tools to analyze and classify every last bit in order to find out how much you are going to charge for it? You also get to be responsible what you transport over your network. Including the stuff that should not be there: Spam, scam, hackers, warez, illegal porn, etc. And if you fail to clean it from your network, you get to be liable.

    And companies that decide to rather stick with just delivering the data indiscriminately, they get to keep the privilege of not getting sued for what their users put in the pipes.

    Deal?

  • AlwinII

    2 years ago

    I accept criticism, but Sarkeesian is a scam artist. She got a lot of money for her kickstarter, she has yet to fulfill the promises she made and her research is shoddy at best. She outright LIES in her videos.

    And these 'video game journalists' are in bed with one another (quite literally for Zoe Quinn) and try to cover it up. THAT'S the problem here. They are caught red-handed and people are calling them out.

    • JaoShingan

      2 years ago

      I love how they all didn't even check their "facts". If they did any research they'd see that Anita's "threats" were clearly fake.

  • AskTheDoctor Lord Aisen

    2 years ago

    ughh megs here. welp time to tune her out.

  • MGurr

    2 years ago

    Just finished Destiny and I have to say I quite enjoyed the story. I put the subtitles on and tried to play when I wouldn't be interrupted to make sure I didn't miss any of it.

    The two main problems it has is that a lot of background is left to the Grimoire cards (or so I believe, I haven't read them yet), which is understandable as it is a brand new Universe and I would guess most people don't want the main plot weighed down by the huge amount of exposition it would take to establish a whole Universe. Grimoire would work a lot better, for me at least, if it could be quickly accessed in game instead of needing the companion app or a trip to the Bungie website.

    Secondly this isn't an eight hour Halo campaign it's supposed to be very long term (10 years for the franchise I've heard) so it's bound to have a bit of a 'slow burn' story that will come out over a longer period of time as a trickle rather than a flood. For those reasons I think it's a bit early to be making definitive decisions on whether the story is good or not, but as a set-up to a new Universe I have enjoyed it.

  • Matt_OEP FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    I really enjoyed this patch

    I decided to come finish it here because I caught a glimpse of the comments on youtube. It was like watching a train wreck, so I had to come here to watch it in peace.

  • MathewSJames FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    This was a really great patch, lots of thought provoking comments being made. kudos!

  • Conbread

    2 years ago

    I would NOT pay 5 bucks per update. How could you charge money for something that so heavily supports modding? Someone could just mod in the new features.

    • ChrisCawley

      2 years ago

      nope, because it was revealed last month that Mojang has secretly owned Bukkit for the past 2 years. Not only has everyone in the Bukkit community been giving Mojang free work under false pretenses, but now there's a DMCA shutdown on all Bukkit links. You can't even download a Bukkit server anymore unless you find some obscure mirror or p2p.

  • crazyterran FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Man, my mom plays World Of Warcraft - Dwarf Priest - and the main thing she loves to do in the game is farm herbs for potions/flasks for the guild bank, fish, and hunt down monsters for her to cook. On top of that, she collects mounts, etc. We play together every now and then, but it's usually to carry her through a dungeon or harder quest with my Heroic/Mythic raid content gear.

    She's absolutely bad at the dungeon/raiding part of the game, and I doubt she'd still be playing if we played on a PVP server. But since Horde Players outnumber Alliance from anyone between five and ten to one, I'm not so surprised all of the Rooster Teeth guys who seem to talk about WoW play Horde and are on a PVP server.

    Of course, I don't blame anyone for playing Horde at this point - Burning Crusade, Cataclysm, Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor all focus on the Horde a lot plot wise, and while the Horde did lose the faction war that started in Cataclysm (and arguably the cold war between the Alliance and Horde started to heat up in Wrath of the Lich King), they still are getting a lot of focus. From what I've seen, Draenei are getting some development as well, so it's not all bad for the Alliance, but wow. Even the Kirin Tor/Dalaran, which went to the Alliance in Mists of Pandaria, has a few neutral quests for the Horde - once again giving the Horde more story/attention.

    I could go on a longer rant about Undead Warlocks/Rogues/Priests, but a paragraph rant about the Horde's focus in the story is probably enough ranting for today.

  • Froswald FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    I love the neutral(ish?) stance RT takes on these political-type issues; but still talking about them. As for Destiny; I just really hope it comes out for PC. Loved it on the 360, but I'm selling it to pay for a home theater PC. I'd totally keep it just for Destiny however

  • ChrisCorp

    2 years ago

    Great Patch episode! I loved digging into the net neutrality talk and games journalism talk. Very interesting to hear your thoughts and discussion. I begun Destiny on Xbox One and I am really enjoying it. Great game and visuals; slightly lacking on story. Loved hearing your thoughts on the game so far. Once again, really liked The Patch this week. Keep it up!

  • stvschafer

    2 years ago

    This podcast really makes me want to make a montage of all the slip ups during the ad reads =]

  • APrecursor FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Did he say there was a discount until September first 2014?

  • cwin90 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold BaDumTiss

    2 years ago

    From what I've seen if you really want more story information in Destiny you won't get it in the game. You need to go online to bungie.net and look at all the Grimoire cards.

  • AustinDawur1

    2 years ago

    I am so glad you talked about destiny and really glad Ryan pointed out the story. I do feel like it fell flat, i beat the game earlier yesterday and nothing felt explained, the game is good but the story was the difference between a 10 out of 10 and a 9 out of 10 and unfortunately i would have to give it a 9. I am confident that there is more to it that but they literally explain anything i felt completely lost and when i saw the "final" cut scene and the most it explained is there is more to come. I think they were trying to "keep them wanting more" but they went a little too literally, not enough carrots and too many sticks. I am interested in the whole story but i don't think i would pre-order the sequel ill just buy a used version. I enjoy the game but I am a story gamer and it was very disappointing. I appreciate that I'm not the only one who feels this way. smiley0.gif

    • chrisscoo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 years ago

      It's pretty much a proof of concept, the gameplay is great but they wrote the 'story' with sequels in mind and it shows

  • mcmxlv

    2 years ago

    I also disagree with Burnie completely on Minecraft— microtransactions or update fees would totally rob the franchise of its "magic"

    • YMIHere

      2 years ago

      I think it would lose some of it's "magic," but I think he's right that it'd still make tons of money in such a state. It'd still be a great stage for let's players to perform on keeping it's popularity up regardless of whether they update or not. Modders could still do their thing without updating giving it insane longevity.

  • Klerik FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Burnie, I hope you're not serious that the 6v6 of destiny is the extension of the 500v500 of Planetside

  • Saxtirical

    2 years ago

    Primarily watched.

  • Saxtirical

    2 years ago

    'Come back later for our other ones'.

    I wonder if the patch is primarily by enfranchised fans.

  • MartyGras2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Poor Ryan.

  • derekschroer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    They should have added the www.freetacosfromspace.com to the Link Dump

  • edwardcoate

    2 years ago

    Meg's bias view of sexism is quite irritating as she doesn't seem to see the difference between people overreacting to slightly racy dress senses and literally having hundreds of shoots in your underwear for the sake of being in your underwear.

    I've seen a lot of tweets from Meg and all she seems to be doing is trying to cause more separation between the sexes.

    The thing is, she posted that when she receives "overtly sexual comments" that she thinks it's an unacceptable thing to occur; which would be true if when you googled Meg Turney nothing racy or overtly sexual would appear, but go ahead, google Meg Turney, the first 7 out of 9 pictures I got were of her in her bra, on images there were definitely over a hundred and that was just a glance and a scroll.

    Now, I'm not saying she's not allowed to do this, anyone can, like Blaine does when he takes his shirt off all the time, like Meg he likes his body, which is cool, good for them, however, I don't see Blaine bitching about receiving attention, like the sexual fan fiction that was written about him, in fact he said it was to be expected and that he thought it was cool and I feel pretty safe in categorising fan fiction about fucking Blaine as overtly sexual.

    Why is it, Meg understands the concept of being comfortable with your body, but doesn't understand the repercussions of doing tons of photo shoots, some with no bra on, just covering her nipples, then complains about being seen as a sex object?

    At least Blaine is cool with being seen as a jock dude sex object for fan fiction, he was expecting it.

    I hate to play the "It was coming" card, but you should have expected this Meg.

    Also, the way Meg tries to make the topic of this #GamerGate be one which is not worthy of talking about sickens me a little bit, she focuses on the 0.0001% of the people who are being wankers rather than the rest actually giving good reasons as to why this is just neo-feminists shitting on the gaming industry.

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      If someone is willing to dislike my comments then they could at least have the civility to say why, that's all I ask.

      The conversation really wasn't out of context, here's the entire Twitter statement.
      Meg Turney - "At my panel at Fan Expo, someone asked how I deal with overtly sexual comments. I told her they don't even register anymore. She seemed confused and asked again, "But...aren't they upsetting?" and again I said, "No. I get them all the time. I'm used to it." It wasn't until after the panel that I realized how sad that answer really was. That I've become so used to sexism in this industry. Just something I've been thinking about today, as I see other women in the industry go through so much."

      There is sexism in every industry, just because she works in the gaming industry doesn't mean anything.

      If she got robbed it wouldn't be because of the gaming industry.

      If she got punched it wouldn't be because of the gaming industry.

      She puts racy pictures up, receives fucked up comments then goes 'IT'S THE GAMERS!'

      Okay I admit it, I came out of left field, but I still dislike what Meg said, or more accurately what she avoided saying, on this patch, sweeping an interesting/important topic under the rug, because, and I hate to say this, she's a feminist/woman.

      It's no coincidence that Ryan/Burnie wanted to talk about it at least a little bit, but Meg just said they shouldn't to avoid irritating people.

      And nah, I've only watched about 4, I'm well aware I'm helping her in some sense (and I do have ad block haha) but it would be unfair of me to talk about her stuff and say it's shit if I didn't watch at least some of her videos.

    • YMIHere

      2 years ago

      it's just plain stupid to expect to be able to coherently label someone anything because they disliked your rant out of left field.

      It's stupid to expect elaboration?

      One of these is not the other, but let's go with yours anyway for a second. If I walk past you in the grocery store and you're complaining that the oranges are too orange, I'm not going to explain to you why I think you're crazy. I may warn people that there's a crazy guy by the oranges though. Now granted, I don't think you're crazy, I just think you picked the wrong venue to bring up your grievances (or at least failed to connect it to the topic at hand in any meaningful way).

      You do come of as slightly crazy from my viewpoint though, as I don't have a twitter account and at best you're picking up a conversation halfway through in a comment section of another discussion. Nothing besides the last paragraph was in reference to anything that was said on the Patch. At some point you'll either realize that you came out of left field with your comment, or you won't. What you're focusing on is a completely different issue that you're more passionate about... see where I'm going with this yet? Meg is more passionate about the harassment in this story, but she voiced it in reference to story that involved it.

      If you watch Anna's videos, especially her most recent one

      I've just got to make sure, you're not always watching her videos are you? Even if you disagree you're still helping her. Even with adblock you're still a statistic that is interested in her discussions.

      Post edited 9/13/14 8:24PM

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      Considering this is the comment section for The Patch, this is the comment section for anything relating to this episode of The Patch or anything to do with The Patch in general, Meg is on The Patch, you figure it out genius.

      It's stupid to expect elaboration? Okay, in future I won't try to argue/debate with elaboration, why don't we all just dislike each others posts for no reason and gain no ground whatsoever? What a redundant point.

      I agree with your second paragraph.

      The thing that really irritates me about Meg and also Anna Sarkeesian is they have these issue, like Meg's harassment with her photos and Anna's obsession with "female tropes in video games" yet all of their issues so far don't really have much to do with video games.

      If you watch Anna's videos, especially her most recent one about women as background fodder in video games, her actual issues are with sexist societal norms (Strip clubs/prostitution/sex trafficking - Mafia games/Bioshock/GTA etc) or historical norms (Dragon Age), I don't understand how she relates strip clubs in the background of a Mafia shootout as sexism.

      Her issues are with society and she just randomly attaches it to the video game industry because it's new and it's booming.

      Meg has issues with creeps, even though as I've previously stated it's expected, then attributes it to gaming; I fucking guarantee you if she worked for the film industry she'd be saying the film industry had a serious issue with sexism instead.


      Meg Turney "It wasn't until after the panel that I realized how sad that answer really was. That I've become so used to sexism in this industry." - Twitter Sept 5th.

    • YMIHere

      2 years ago

      @edwardcoate
      Is this just the comment about anything related to Meg section? One paragraph at the end of your post was on topic, so thanks for that. That's why you got a new down vote today, because you came in here with some random assortment of grievances about a cast member rather than about a topic. Since you must know, I also down voted your second post because it's just plain stupid to expect to be able to coherently label someone anything because they disliked your rant out of left field. I left the rest alone because people choose to engage in that discussion with you that I clearly don't have the source for.

      As for your last paragraph, I'll agree that she seems be glossing over it a bit. I'm curious what she's referring to with the "witch hunt" because as far as I know people are searching for more instances of corruption, which is what should be done. It should be done all the time so that things like this are stopped early instead of snowballing into this huge swath of problems that can barely be kept track of. She's also not arguing Burnie or Ryan's points though, which makes me think it may be more about about what's pulling her strings personally.

      Which brings me to harassment, which sadly is part of the issue. It may hit her harder than it hits us emotionally. I know I've gotten several death threats, by angry people in my face no less. It just seems like something that gets thrown around a lot by guys, but I imagine your average girl's upbringing doesn't result in a complete desensitization to verbal threats. It's all to easy for me to pass off threats, but she may be unintentionally focusing on them because it's out of this world to her. I'm trying to think of an analogy, but the best I've got is if someone said "your fingernails are too short." That'd be weird for you to hear, right? It's not something I hear so it might stick with me (albeit, in a funny way), but girls probably hear that a lot... maybe?

      Post edited 9/13/14 7:49AM

    • SchmidtN

      2 years ago

      "... people are fucked up and when given the freedom of the internet they're allowed to be fucked up with little to no consequences." I think part of the discussion is they shouldn't feel they have the freedom to be a dick just because they're online. At some point we need to start treating each other the same way online that we do in real life.

      "... look at any porn star's twitter and you'll see how many fucked up replies they get, it's just the internet, it's starting to piss me off that Meg's trying to pin this on sexism..." I don't follow any porn stars on twitter so this is a legitimate question and I'm in no way leading to anything, but do male and female porn stars both get threats? If it's only one gender that's targeted (or perceived as targeted) I could see the argument for sexism. That argument would get stronger if the threats are drastically more skewed towards females than males. Michael Jones tweeted a shirtless picture of himself today and so far I haven't seen one female tweet anything nasty to him. I don't think Meg could tweet a picture of herself in just a bra today and get the same treatment. That's the sexism she's addressing and it's a valid thing to discuss. Males treat females poorly and other females treat females poorly. It doesn't matter who the attacker is, the constant female target is the problem.

      I honestly don't know if Meg is just complaining or trying to bring attention to the problem. Some folks just ignore it and hope it goes away and some folks talk about it and hope the community will talk about it and everyone will get together and say that kind of thing isn't acceptable anymore. I'm not saying one method is better or worse than the other, but being vocal about it certainly draws more attention and more (misplaced IMHO) hate towards them. Either way you address the problem, you're hoping it'll change so I'm willing to give the victim of the threats the reason of the doubt.

      Yes, obviously putting up those types of images of yourself makes you a lightning rod for internet creeps but the argument is still that people should be responsible for their actions, act like decent humans and not be nasty to each other. Females shouldn't have to pause before they post something and ask who's going to say something nasty to them about it.

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      Meg doesn't seem to grasp the concept of the internet and trolls in general.

      Good looking girls might get a fucking weird troll or genuine rape/death threat every now and again, I'm not saying it's at all acceptable, it just happens, people are fucked up and when given the freedom of the internet they're allowed to be fucked up with little to no consequences.

      So if normal people will get fucked up shit from time to time, what are you meant to expect when you put pictures like this up, just look at any porn star's twitter and you'll see how many fucked up replies they get, it's just the internet, it's starting to piss me off that Meg's trying to pin this on sexism when it's just weird-ism in general, as if dude's don't get death threats or rape threats, Meg needs to stop complaining and just ignore the 0.0001% of the internet that the rest of us choose to ignore.

      It's just so frustrating to read that she says openly that she put those photos up for people to see then is shocked that there are fucking weirdos who take this shit too far, is this her first day as a human?

    • SchmidtN

      2 years ago

      I think the problem is the internet; not Meg's actions. The internet lets the very loud minority say very inappropriate things because they can hide behind anonymity and not face up to what they've said or done. The real problem is you don't know who's just an internet tough guy 14 year old and who legitimately has a mental problem and is going to do to you what they said.

      "..but go ahead, google Meg Turney, the first 7 out of 9 pictures I got were of her in her bra..." So does that mean anybody would walk up to a girl in a bikini top and cut off jeans at a beach and tell them they were going to rape and kill them? Heck no. But a girl in a bra on the internet? Well, I'm guessing it happens since Meg's mentioned it. Then to Barbara not talking about it, well talking about it brings more attention to her personally and some folks think not mentioning it is the same as not bringing attention to the problem and not working towards fixing it. Either action you take, depending on what side of the argument you're on, somebody's going to say you're doing the right thing and somebody's going to say you're doing the wrong thing.

      RE the Blain vs Meg thing, again I think that's an internet thing. Some males will treat women very poorly when they think they could get away with it but generally speaking females don't do that to males. That's kind of why the feminist movement gets painted in a poor light. It's not a she-woman male hater club, it's a why can't everyone just get a fair shake club. Golden rule kind of thing. Do you want a bunch of internet creeps telling you they're going to rape and kill you? No, OK good... please don't do it to others and please understand when they're creeped out that people do it to them and not blame them because of how they dressed or pictures they took for the internet.

      Just treat people nice. Hey, if Meg takes some handbra pictures and you enjoyed them just thank her instead of calling her rape bait. Or if you don't like it, don't google Meg, but to defend people who say they're going to do illegal things to somebody else, that's mindblowing IMHO.

    • MattParker17 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 years ago

      Meg talks about this in the YT comments:

      "The sexism I talk about facing has many facets, but to cover just one very quickly, I am not referencing people appreciating my photos. Of course I post them for people to see - that's why they're on the damn Internet. What I should not have to deal with are the rape fantasies I get sent or the death threats or being told I should just "expect" that type of sexual harassment because I chose to model in my underwear. That's unacceptable and I will continue to talk about it when others ask me about my experiences."

      Meg has every right to call people out when she gets sent disgusting garbage like those disgusting fantasies or threats.

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      If you're a good looking girl, who posts a photo of yourself, regardless of whether or not it was for a photo shoot, of you sticking your ass in the air, wearing pants and a bra whilst looking lustfully towards the camera, I genuinely find it difficult not to assume that that's sexual.

      If you can't look at it during school then it's sexual - just my motto.

      Seriously, just google Meg Turney, then tell me those pictures just aren't deliberately designed to gain attraction.

      Why is it I've never seen Barbara complain about receiving overtly sexual comments? And she probably does receive them, but she won't receive them to the extent that Meg is, want to know why?

      Because Barbara didn't put up 500 pictures of her with no bra on showing 60% of her tits covering her nipples, ones where she's bent over sinks with her ass in the air with no top, ones where she's squeezing her tits together to create more cleavage, like, I'm really struggling to find a way to spell this out to you.

      It's like a pornstar going "I don't know why guys keep telling me they want to cum on my face and put their dicks in my ass".

      The further you go with anything the higher the extent of that thing's retaliation will increase, this is just a simple point, if I punch someone in the face I might have to go to the police, if I punch someone in the face 30 times causing brain damage and fractures to the skull then I'm probably going to prison.

    • MaVannas

      2 years ago

      I can certainly respect that opinion, but I still think it was unwise.

    • KaelaKhaine

      2 years ago

      I would understand that if the photos are actually meant to be overtly sexual, attract attention and such, but you do not know if that was the intention of the photo poster. For instance, the other person who left the comment mentioned the pictures of Meg that you can find just by entering her name into Google. I do not know what her intention was, she could have been trying to take provocative pictures, or she could have been doing something as benign as modeling underwear. However, she could still get sexual comments whether she wanted them or not.

      Sure, people can have opinions on photos or clothing choices, but it doesn't mean it needs public messages, or even direct messages, to the person.

    • MaVannas

      2 years ago

      Listen, if you post overtly sexual photos, expect overtly sexual comments. Contrary to popular opinion, actions have consequence, it doesn't make the person photographed a victim in anyway. It was their choice to publicize the photos.

    • KaelaKhaine

      2 years ago

      I don't think that those "overtly sexual comments" should be expected at all. I would consider any of those types to be inappropriate whether a person dresses in bikini like clothes or fully covered up or even completely naked. The way you put it, it seems like just because people are always making those "overtly sexual comments" toward others, people should just expect, accept, and just take such treatment.
      Think of it this way: a lady is confident with her body and comfortable in her skin. She then decides to wear some of those clothes considered "racy" because she feels happy and confident like that and maybe she wants others to see how confident she is. If she were to expect those overtly sexual comments but doesn't want them, does that mean she should stay completely covered up? Should she not speak out that those comments are inappropriate?
      Sure, some people are okay with that kind of treatment, but not everyone is fine being just thought of as a sexual being/thing as a target for sexual desire. Those kind of negative experiences tend to stay in mind longer even if there are a bunch of positive comments. Maybe people should learn to control themselves better rather than think that the target expects the comments.

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      I already said I have no problem with her putting pictures of her body up, regardless of whether or not people are comfortable with their bodies, they can put pictures of themselves fully naked on the internet if they want; what's stupid is when people do shit like that then they get the EXACT response which they knew they were going to get then they use things like gaming as a scapegoat, if Meg worked for the fast food industry and put up those photos I'm sure she'd be calling the fast food industry sexist too.

      I agree with you on the second part about trolls, but in terms of dudes who just think she's hot, they're allowed to think and write and say that, it's an appropriate response to whatever you're attracted too, to attribute that to sexism however is pretty redundant.

      I'd say it's more inappropriate when Ashley or Barbara get overtly sexual things said to them, as far as I'm aware if I google them I don't see any bras or near nude photos, maybe some photos of them trying to look nice, but nothing on the level of Meg, both genders try to look nice in photos, but if a dude, like Blaine, takes a photo of a huge bulge in a pair of speedos then expect comments, if I google Gavin I get nothing worse than Barbara or Lindsay and I don't see him complaining like this either. .

      I wouldn't have a problem if Meg said she dislikes the comments she gets, but to claim they shouldn't be happening? Don't be silly.

    • Djuro

      2 years ago

      It's a topic that will cause backlash no matter what. Don't expect a lot of elaboration on why people think you are either right or wrong.
      As for Meg and the comments on her pictures, I don't think she had it comming or should accept it happening. Her body, her life, her decission. However, she shouldn't feed the internet trolls who just want to get a reaction out of her and give them that satisfaction. As a public figure in either way, you are just bound to have some sort of fanbase that wants to push your buttons and get an emotional reaction out of you. All she does with this is give them what they want.

    • edwardcoate

      2 years ago

      Also, if you have an issue with my post, I'd at least like an elaboration, otherwise you're only proving that you're just hopping on the "I'm not a sexist" bandwagon, so good for you if you want to dislike this and move on.

  • jocman96 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Ryan's reading of the Hover ad had me in tears.

  • ElasmoFan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    Really enjoyed this Patch. Not so interested in seeing youtube's commentary on it though.

    • queenfthseas

      2 years ago

      Good call, Youtube's commentary made me want to gouge my eyes out...

  • Kariodude FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 years ago

    There's a high pitched sound the entire video. Can't even listen to it. Driving me crazy.

  • ZodiacHunter

    2 years ago

    Hearing Burnie mispronouce Minecraft every single time made me laugh. But this is a great episode, and I'm super happy that they tackled the Net Neutrality and Game Journalism topics.

  • HOWtwoROCK

    2 years ago

    When they talk about hover I keep thinking of the kickstarted game hoverwww.kickstarter.com/projects/midgarstudio/hover-r... target="_blank"> www.kickstarter.com/projects/midgarstudio/hover-r...

  • mcmxlv

    2 years ago

    She's definitely talking about Medal of Honor Underground— you're in the french underground… not escaping a concentration camp hahahahaha

    • Nakatomi FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 years ago

      It's not even "Underground" -- just one of the missions from Medal of Honor. You also steal nazi uniforms in the research bunker, you need papers to get past guard booths, and into the secret labs, etc.

  • Rocket2606

    2 years ago

    First