Mass Effect Sexy Time Is Back! - #181

The Patch: Mass Effect Sexy Time Is Back! - #181

Join Gus Sorola, Ashley Jenkins, and Ryan Haywood as they discuss Mass Effect: Andromeda, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, Overwatch updates, and more on this week's The Patch! This episode originally aired on November 9, 2016. Sponsored by Loot Crate (http://bit.ly/2caUqYx) and MeUndies (http://bit.ly/29jAkYU)


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  • ajsyav FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    8 months ago

    Even more evidence that there are too many holes in the ME:A setup for hope.

  • PacMonster FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Realize this is a few days old at this point but just wanted to add that the mass relays were not destroyed at the end of Mass Effect 3. While it certainly looked like that due to how badly done the endings were, the extended cut made it more clear that the mass relay network was damaged but not destroyed and that the relay network was fixed.


    Regarding the time period of Andromeda, from what I remember the arks leave between the end of Mass Effect 1 and the start of Mass Effect 2. So, Shepard is a known entity but not the savior of the galaxy as far as the species on the Arks are concerned. 500 years go by during the time it takes the ships to get to Andromeda so technically while the members of the ships might not know what happened in the Milky Way, it's 500 years in the future from the events of Mass Effect 3.

    • Sanunes

      9 months ago

      I was always under the impression that the relays were not destroyed, but drained of energy for unlike what happened in Arrival they didn't hit the relay with an asteroid they just used all the energy contained to create the pulse to represent the ending.


      Looking at the Andromeda Initiative clip they have it looks like they started working on the AI prior to the events of Mass Effect 1 and like you said leave around the time Mass Effect 2 starts.  Those videos also talk about how it was funded privately so I am expecting a SpaceX or Mars One approach to it instead of being designed around surviving the Reapers which might be a secondary objective "in case Shepard is right".

    • FallenBytes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      That is a good thought, it brings to mind the Incessant Obsolescence Postulate. It could be that survivors from ME3 did get the relays to work and actually traveled to Andromeda a few decades after the end of ME3 and have been messing things up in the Andromeda galaxy for hundreds of years before the main characters arrive. 

  • Matt317 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold the guy

    9 months ago

    They seem really quick to stop using their 360s. Despite the Xbox One's backwards compatibility, I still have my 360 hooked up because not all games are backwards compatible and the emulation isn't perfect. Sometimes it works better to have the games running on original hardware. Though when the emulation is near perfect, that's when I'll play it on Xbox One since I prefer the One controller over the 360 controller.


    Also, it's nice to see Owlboy get a mention in this episode. :)

    • Sanunes

      9 months ago

      Yeah, I had a bunch of problems as well with backwards compatibility.  I also don't think they were holding onto the games very long since multi-disk backwards compatibility has only been around for six months I beleive and only a handful of games get released at a time.

  • BoydofZINJ FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold BoydofZINJ

    9 months ago

    The reason they left to another Galaxy for Mass Effect Andromeda is, from my understanding, because of the REAPERS.  This was Galaxy's desperate SPACE SEED attempt ... a JUST IN CASE WE LOSE... we sent people to another galaxy to seed it.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      That makes sense. But at the time they left, most of the Galaxy didn't believe the Reapers were real.

  • beckwith1995 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Blake

    9 months ago

    THE TODD 

    LIKE FROM SCRUBS 

    I WANNA BE THAT ALIEN RACE 

  • SerPlumtree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    The Geth arn't gone now, I know this because when I got to that point in mass effect 3 I had to stop, go back and play mass effect 2 to get Tali and Legion to get on, then start mass effect 3 again with the new import. All so that they can work together... not even a joke... I was unemployed at the time.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Unless Bioware makes it canon, I will refuse to acknowledge any ending where the Geth and Quarians are extinct.

    • SerPlumtree FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I refuse to believe that ending exists.  

  • ZeroHowl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    To clarify, Liam hasn't been suggested to be N7. The N7 character we've seen is Alec Ryder, but as of the moment, Liam has only been suggested to be a police officer. Given that they've heavily suggested a lot of our crew and squad will be younger and less tested, I'd be surprised if we saw a veteran N7 as one of our squadmates (that would make them more qualified than us).


    As for romance, nothing absolute (that I've seen) on how many options there are for each gender, hetero- or homo-sexual, but we did get this tweet. Which is going to be very interesting, I think. It was also confirmed somewhere (can't find a source, sorry) that there will be potential romances with both squadmates and non-squadmates.


    EDIT: I now recognise Ashley addresses this first part later in the show, but I'm writing these as I go, please excuse me.

  • ZeroHowl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    So it has actually been confirmed that the four Arks belong to the humans, asari, turians and salarians. However, in that same source you can see a suggestion (although not a confirmation) that other major species such as krogan and quarians may be present on the fifth Ark, the Nexus.


    In addition, an early leak of game information suggested we had a krogan squadmate named Drak. Whether this is actually the case is unknown, but we have certainly seen krogan in the trailers before. Quarians are still unconfirmed at this time.

  • AbstractSpaces FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    If anyone is thinking about replaying the trilogy (or even just ME3) but has a bad memory of the ending, I absolutely recommend playing with the free Extended Cut DLC. It drastically extends the final cutscenes and you get to see the consequences a lot of your choices had.


    I never played the non-extended version, so when I finished I didn't understand what the complaints were. Then I read what the original ending was and was kind of horrified at how bad it originally was. My point is that the Extended Cut makes everything better, so go play it.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I've played both and I don't understand the hate it get's. Then again I heard people saying how bad it was before I played any of them, so maybe I had such low expectations that I was happy with it. Though I'm of the opinion that Bioware just doesn't do good endings in general.

  • zechio FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Ryan, I am a bit disappoint. I think it was even you that recently mentioned that you can absolutely get a lot of the benefits of a 4k online video on a 1080p monitor. Even 8k looks better, just because of the extreme compression companies have to use for them to be viable. As such, I would love if you could even just up-Res your videos to 4 and 8k before uploading:) It pretty much takes an 8k stream to get equal to just regular old 1080p from an uncompressed source like a Blu-Ray.


    As for the bandwidth side of things, most people actually can stream it. Even as bad as the US is, most places have enough to watch [email protected], with quite a lot able to do [email protected] I would imagine your viewers tend to skew towards those with higher speeds than the average.


    Interestingly, it's actually the CPU that is most peoples limiting factor. My old Core 2 quad QX6700 OCed to 3 GHZ, couldn't manage [email protected] videos. My new i7-6700 however, does [email protected] perfectly, so the transition is indeed happening now. ( I was kind of surprised it seems to be so heavily on the CPU too, not video card. ) We see the same with the consoles as well of course.

  • ReckonBallZ FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Watcher on the 4th Wall

    9 months ago

    Elon Musk through Tim Urban informed me on Twitter about Fermi's Paradox 2 years ago. Thereafter, I was on board with the ending to ME3. In case you missed it, here it is. Mass Effect is an awesome series! I only played Skyrim more than it (in total hours).

  • moultonlava FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Ryan the PS4 pro doesn't run games at true 4K. They use techniques like checker boarding. In that case it's double the resolution of 1080p. 

  • moultonlava FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Ryan they upscale Xbox one S to 4K on 4K tvs 

  • aisultan1996

    9 months ago

    I think 600 years is a long time, there was a marvel comic where this dude is put into stasis and sent somewhere just like in the plot of andromeda, but by the time he gets there in his outdated little spaceship and comes out of stasis humanity has developed far superior tech and made it there before him. Who's to say that won't happen in Andromeda and who's to say Krogans didn't send anyone later in a superior ship that could get there before or slightly after those who took off right after mass effect 2. Also I hope Bioware does a Bethesda and choose a cannonical outcome of the original trilogy.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      I just did a bunch of math involving the Normandy's speed at the beginning of ME1 and the mass relays and how close the Milky Way and Andromeda will be in 2783 just to realize all you need to do is divide 2.5 million light years between our galaxies by 600 years to see the fleet is travelling at more than 10 times the speed of light. I seriously doubt any ships in the future can do much better than that. 


      But the thing is, each ark ship being one council race is pure speculation. If we're preserving Milky Way life, it seems a bit arrogant that humans who JUST joined the galaxy 30 years before get to survive, while Hanar, Volus, Krogan, Elcor, Quarian, Drell, and Vorcha can just go to hell. Hanar wouldn't want to leave the galaxy of the "Enkindlers" anyway, but why wouldn't they send Drell and Krogan if they're trying to preserve life, and why not bring a few Quarians who know how to manage life on a ship for extended periods of time, who can count this as their pilgrimmage and come back with something of value 1200+ years later (Only to find Rannoch fully settled) (And I know it's supposed to be a one-way trip. I'm just saying.)

      But yeah. There's no reason Krogans wouldn't come on the initial expedition. Most of them accepted that their race was fucked.

    • zechio FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      "more than 10 times the speed of light. I seriously doubt any ships in the future can do much better than that."


      Why not? At the point you're talking about FTL, what's to say you can't just keep increasing it? Especially when you are talking about hundreds of years to get those increases. If we compare 1800 to modern times, a mere 216 years apart, we went from about 40mph being the max, to a bit over 36,000mph.


      It's actually a well known problem in space exploration. As time goes on, we have gotten faster and faster. With such vast distances, and long time scales, it can very easily be better to just wait a bit.


      Consider the ME:A case. It will take the arks 600 years to reach Andromeda. What if in 250 years, they double their speed? They arrive 50 years BEFORE the arks. That's with a very generous 250 years to merely double the speed. Now consider a comparable speed increase to that in real life: 200 years for 900x the speed. The entire trip would take just 8 months, arriving about 400 years before the arks.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      But how quickly can the systems track themselves? Without any sensors to track stars, they can only rely on math to get them there, that being a fraction off in one variable could end the expedition any number of ways.


  • aisultan1996

    9 months ago

    Even though we know Krogans didn't send a ship of their own to Andromeda there was a 100% a Krogan somewhere in the footage they released, whether or not it will make it to the game is anyone's guess though.

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    Just because there are four ark ships and four council races doesn't mean there's only one species per ship. There could be Krogans and Drell (Thane's race) which are near extinction, and other non-council races like Elcor and Vorcha and Volus sprinkled throughout. In fact, if they're trying to save Milky Way life, why WOULDN'T they send along Drell and Krogan?! I just hope we see Quarians. Their expertise on living on ships would seriously help the initiative.


    And maybe game 1 will follow one sibling, then the second game shows what the other sibling was doing. One of them dies, and the third game follows the second one further into the timeline.


    • Ashley FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Know

      9 months ago

      You can save Mordin in Mass Effect 3, but in order for that to happen, Wrex has to die in Mass Effect 1.  That's what I was referring to.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @Ashley Wait, WHAT?! I've played through so many times, read so many things that say Mordin dies no matter what. Holy... I... what?! Oh my God. Every single one of my playthroughs is a lie. I apologize for correcting you. I apologize so hard.

  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    They could just make a Mass Effect keep thing to handle the diffent endings. Since we're in a different Galaxy and super far in the future from the end of 3, most of what you do won't matter until you maybe recontact the Milky Way.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Also from what I remember, the only major talk about N7 in the actual game was if you talked to Vega enough. And the romance stuff from Andromeda sounds like Dragon Age 2, which suprises me given how poorly received the game was, including that aspect of the game.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      If they imported your ending to the new games, then they'd still need an original organic, husk, and synthesized texture for every single character.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @DavidtheWavid

      Not unless they bring people from the Milky Way to Andromeda in a reasonable amount of time. The ending stuff from ME3 was carried through the Mass Relays, meaning the ships were probably out of range.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      So if they were out of range of The Crucible's blast, no matter when they leave they're not affected by the ending of Mass Effect 3. They wouldn't know what the different colors of energy mean. They'd be out of range of communications.


      Regardless, we know they left before the end of ME3. This debate is pointless.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @DavidtheWavid

      From what I understand, the ships are launched between ME2 and 3, so the events of everything before that can effect the game, such as if Krogan are allowed on the ship or if the Quarians would be willing to sacrifice their limited population for something that they might consider a waste of resources. And while I doubt it'll happen, if you took an option that kept the Geth around they can pop up in some way.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      But remember, most of the Geth were still indoctrinated and/or bigots, and even well into ME3 (all the way through in most possible outcomes) the Quarian still feared them. AND they thought Rannoch was lost forever, so what's to stop them from living on ships like they always do and try to find a planet a few of them can live on? Still, while I'd love to see them and think their presence in the game would make sense, yeah, probably no Quarians.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @DavidtheWavid

      Legion's experiences with Shepard changes their view on organics. And the majority of their population didn't join Sovereign. They only joined the Reapers during 3 because the Quarians decided to attack them. Granted, there's no way the Council would let Geth on the ships, but the Geth are more then capable of sending their own, which is what I was getting at.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Quarians tried returning to Rannoch frequently over the years but were met with hostility. You can't say the Geth were innocent.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      @DavidtheWavid

      This is a debate I think is best left alone since it goes nowhere, but the Quarians would've tried to reenslave or wipe out the Geth, so hostility was warranted. That's all I'll point out on this.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Well, they both wanted to wipe each other out.

  • Elzee98 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wizerd

    9 months ago

    Not every ending destroys the relays. The Paragon blue ending fixes the relays in the aftermath scenes.

    • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Still would take a while for each corner of the galaxy to rebuild ships, communication devices, rebuild their own relay, communicate with other relays to see whose work that they can travel to, travel to the nearest working ones to repair the broken ones several light years away... It would take at least a few decades.

  • Elzee98 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Wizerd

    9 months ago

    SEXY TIMES, YEAH!!!