Final Fantasy Road Trip - #183

The Patch: Final Fantasy Road Trip - #183

Join Ashley Jenkins, Adam Ellis, and Ryan Haywood as they discuss Final Fantasy XV, game sequels, Thanksgiving, and more on this week's The Patch! This episode originally aired on November 23, 2016. Sponsored by Dollar Shave Club (http://bit.ly/2dscTyZ)


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  • ZeusBaxter FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold THAT Guy

    1 year ago

    Maybe the sales numbers for aaa titles have gone down because of digital purchases? I may be wrong but didnt i hear on the patch before that digital sales numbers arent released. I myself have gone to digital copy since fallout 4. that was the last physical disk i bought and have since bought 1-2 games a month still just digital since id rather not disk swap or trek to a store for a 3 minute purchase that takes just as long to install off disk as is does to download over the net.

  • DavidtheWavid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Final Fantasy, along with Tomb Raider and Doom (and until recently Metal Gear), I would say is one of the few older series to still be alive with the same relative audience. It's reinvented itself with every major game, but I think the numbers are just intimidating to some players. My sister saw me playing 13 once and seemed interested until I mentioned the number. Most people, even if told each game is an independent world, still seem shut off when they see a massive number. There's a reason you don't see Tomb Raider 14 and Metal Gear 13, but those are at least a somewhat connected chronology. Call of Duty 17?


    But I think there's a major problem in the marketing for FFXV. Not necessarily the amount like Adam said. Most is accessible. It's just that they're trying to recreate what FF7 had. But FF7's popularity bloomed over the course of several years, and its spinoffs and movie and anime weren't released until almost a decade later. They're trying to recreate a flash in the pan by putting dynamite on everyone's stove and hoping it catches fire.


    Ryan: That was a bad transition.
    Ashley: No, just  roll with it.
    You mean...  barbara Just So-roll-a with it?

  • kylebelerin FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Ashley, you are the best. I made a comment about wanting another Warcraft RTS and you talked about it in post show a few months ago, it's awesome to see things like that come up again. 

  • adamdothunt

    1 year ago

    People that watch esports play the game, its informative. and validates your choice to play the game, like a talk show for games for a review writer. 

  • adamdothunt

    1 year ago

    adam needs to stop talking over ashley

  • MartyGras2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I love my starcraft games.

    I would like more Warcraft RTS games.  Back in the day Warcraft was my jam.  Still play it to this day, especially Warcraft 3.

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 year ago

    I'm with ryan I would love more StarCraft stuff. I am a big fan of that series but more story focused content. If they did a remake of sc/brood war I would buy that in a heart beat. I like the nova story stuff. I just wish they would do more with that universe.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      I agree with you in a in no way biased way what so ever. On a serious note, I'd totally love it if Blizzard didn't wait another 10 years to make an new StarCraft game.

  • Stapleman77 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I think a big reason Watch Dogs and Titanfall 1 sold much better is because the new systems had just come out and we had nothing else to play.  At that point a lot of us owned every game that had came out on those two systems.  There was like 20 triple A titles at the time.

  • Sanunes

    1 year ago

    I think the biggest problem with Titanfall 2 isn't EA deciding to release it during the Christmas season for looking at the release schedule they released it on the only week in the "Holiday Season" that wasn't already being used for another AAA release.  My guess is how quickly the multiplayer died off (at least on the PC) people are waiting to see if that trend continues.


    Watch Dogs 2 has a chance to get beyond its poor reception if they can prove the game is better then the first game for once people started to see that Assassin's Creed Black Flag had a fun element with sailing people began to slowly purchased the game.


    Looking at Infinite Warfare I am wondering if the problem is that they updated the aspect of the game that a lot of people don't buy the game for.  It just seems to me people are more interested in the multiplayer aspects of that franchise and what I understand they focused more on the single player part of the game.


    Right now I do think part of the problem is publishers cramming games into the "Holiday Season" and leaving the rest of the year fairly sparse unless they don't think a game will do well or has been delayed for a couple of months.

  • Dr_Jirou_Takahashi FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Jirou Takahashi

    1 year ago

    Titanfall 2 "auto aim" on PC? wtf Adam =P love ya...but you're full of shit on this issue sry. I've played over 100+ hrs and haven't noticed this "snap aiming" you speak of, maybe its my set-up but after I heard this I tried to test and nothing (please don't state things as concrete if you're not 100%) 

  • TheFabledCashew FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Adam is just massive.

  • Zortack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    For someone who loves RPGs a lot and doesn't like FPSs Adam sure plays very few RPGs and a lot of Overwatch

    • MissKazy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Magical Anime Girl °☆.。.

      1 year ago

      I swear all I've heard him talk about playing extensively is Overwatch and Dark Souls

  • ayere FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Its got to a point for myself that I refuse to spend 80-100$ on a brand new game. For one, that's a absurd amount of money to spend on a single game and second, most games go on sale for 30-40% within the first couple months after launch-so will just buy it then.

    • Caprindo

      1 year ago

      As has been pointed out previously, it's actually an interesting claim that 100$ is too much to spend on a game. 


      Long story short, while video game production (especially AAA titles) costs have gone up, consumers refuse to pay more than ~$60 initially, a price set somewhere in the past after games were 100-120$ but before inflation really kicked into gear. This conundrum is what has likely driven some of the more disliked practices of late, including DLC gouging and shorter games with cut content. 


      It'd be like, say, if you had a lemonade stand, and lemons slowly went up in price, but consumers demanded each glass cost the original amount. Either you'd have to accept a loss in profit (costing people, perhaps yourself, jobs), or start charging for extraneous goods, like sugar. The sugar pricing may upset the average consumer, and not including it the original product may leave said product with a sour taste, but it's the closest to a compromise both sides can reach. The producer is trying to relive the old days, in terms of profit, just as much as you're trying to relive them in terms of expense.


      On the sale front, though, I completely understand. I don't have the kind of time to spend beating a series of video games, but when I did (and will in the future) I often had to rely on Humblebundle and such to "store up" for the cold months between steam sales.

  • Adarylble FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I wonder if the overall game sales decreased at all. I think maybe there's a level of saturation in games that it may have reached, that people just arent as interested in AAA titles anymore, or they may stick to a certain game (like overwatch) for longer periods of time that it doesnt justify buying games like CoD, Titanfall, or Watchdogs. I have no data to back up what I'm saying, but that's just my take on it.

    • MissKazy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Magical Anime Girl °☆.。.

      1 year ago

      I think the problem with those three titles in particular was

      a) CoD is still pushing the futuristic war genre way too much and most gamers are sick of it and it  being an annual title probably doesnt help it's cause much

      b) Titanfall 1 was an XBox One exclusive, which Microsoft hyped into oblivion and back, now that TF2 is multi platform, it wasn't as heavily advertised and most people who didn't play the first might not have even known a sequel was being released

      c) Watch Dogs 1 was complete garbage so that negative reputation hurt WD2 

      Also factor that they all launched within a few weeks of each other, also had to compete with Battlefield 1 and Gears of War 4, it's safe to say there is definitely an over saturation of shooter based titles right now (side note this is probably one reason why Skyrim remastered has sold so well, it was pretty much the only non shooter title other than Pokémon that launched recently so it stood out)

  • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I honestly found Aiden more likeable then any of the characters in Watch_Dogs 2. Granted, that's more of a statement of how much I dislike the direction of 2's story more then a complement to Aiden. He sucked as a character, but the people in 2 are worse.

  • Outis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Non Mea Culpa

    1 year ago

    I'm so happy that "Broad Trip" is a term now. And I also just realized that there's no good way to write that term down. B-road Trip? Bro-ad Trip?

  • Ecoli13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Infamous 535

    1 year ago

    Dishonored's DLC (Knife of Dunwall & Brigmore Witches) ran parallel with the main game following the assassin Daud

  • meganmaz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Does Adam not like Ryan? Every time he is on he makes it his mission to disagree with everything that Ryan says, to the point were he is disagreeing before Ryan is even finished talking. 

    • supman34 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      To me it seems like Adam has strong views that he doesn't like to be challenged on.  It seems when anyone on The Patch presents a alternate point of view he starts to get worked up. I think Ryan just happens to be better than most at "challenging" views.

  • TheMeta88 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    It's funny they mention tablets. Maybe it's because they've heard this news already but a Blizzard exec said that they weren't sure about another Warcraft strategy game and that they feel mobile is still an untapped market.

  • PureMatty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    also starcraft pros can do about 300 actions per minute apparently

  • PureMatty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    i got skyrim on the steam sale. first time im gonna be playing it

    • sirtalkalot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      cool me to

  • Boardslayer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Master of time and space

    1 year ago

    Just FYIfor the information of the reader, the steam sale is going on.